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Grim New Rules for NYC Paramedics: Don’t Bring Cardiac Arrests to ER for Revival
NBCNewYork ^ | 4/2/20 | Tim Winter

Posted on 04/02/2020 12:04:05 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

Unless they are homosexuals. Mayor DeStupido will be watching closely the Franklin Graham hospital folks so they better not reject anyone.


61 posted on 04/02/2020 12:48:00 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Captain Walker

To give New Yorkers something to crowd the wharfs and gawk at?


62 posted on 04/02/2020 12:48:58 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: LibWhacker
Grim New Rules for NYC Paramedics: Don’t Bring Cardiac Arrests to ER for Revival

An open invitation for Ambulance Chasers to climb out of their holes with fistfuls of lawsuits.

63 posted on 04/02/2020 12:49:08 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (If I were infected and a carrier there are quite a few politicians I would need to meet with!)
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To: JonPreston
Statistically, this will largely affect men.

And conservatives.

64 posted on 04/02/2020 12:50:50 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Captain Walker

To free up 1000 beds inside the hospitals. The ship is basically a trauma hospital...so seriously ill people with no sign of Corona...


65 posted on 04/02/2020 12:54:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LibWhacker

2nd-ary and tertiary effects to the general mortality rates affected by China Virus. The virus may or may not cause as many deaths as expected but the side effects are the reduced care available for sufferers of other ailments! That’s the force multiplyer killer aspect of the China Virus.

Buy an AED kit and learn cpr should be the mantra of the masses.(at least the chest compression part since good chest compression do get air into the lungs and blood circulating in the body. Many more lives could be saved.


66 posted on 04/02/2020 12:55:18 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: LibWhacker
And conservatives.

Shouldn't heart attack victims, who are American citizens, get preference over illegal aliens who need emergency EMT care? One would think not too long ago that would be the case, but no more. We have allowed our country to slip almost entirely away.

67 posted on 04/02/2020 12:56:05 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Sacajaweau

This specifies cardiac arrest. If the paramedics are able reestablish a heartbeat and transport for further efforts it is still logged as a cardiac arrest event. This does not say don’t bring dead bodies, it says don’t bring any cardiac arrest patients who are still, if barely, alive. It implies a hospital imposed DNR for cardiac arrest.


68 posted on 04/02/2020 12:58:13 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: LibWhacker

I maintain that New York is a total waste. Evil Empire if there ever was one. Greedy bastards and self centered. I have no desire to ever go there and even more now.


69 posted on 04/02/2020 12:58:34 PM PDT by southernindymom ( IT)
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To: Sasparilla

Yes, that is the concept, but this is NYC after all with their glorious mayor Doomberg.


70 posted on 04/02/2020 1:00:52 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: stanne

Ok. So they are saying let people die. This is just to make people scared.

Gotcha.


71 posted on 04/02/2020 1:04:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: mmichaels1970
Allowing people to die so that people don’t die. What a mess.

Not doing CPR on dead people is not "allowing them to die".

72 posted on 04/02/2020 1:04:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Hot Tabasco
obvious signs of death. Nothing new about that. That was
the rule back in the early 90’s when I was a EMT with the
local Fire Department.

Mike

73 posted on 04/02/2020 1:06:02 PM PDT by M_Callahan
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To: Vermont Lt

No they are definitely not saying let people die. They are saying what I said they are saying. Don’t bring dead people to the ER

Read it. Stop wasting my time.


74 posted on 04/02/2020 1:10:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I understand what cardiac arrest means. It means your heart has stopped beating. Not fluttering around. Not working hard because of a blockage. But stopped. Arrested.

If you come along and find Dad on the toilet with no heartbeat, by the time the ambulance gets there he is as dead as you get. He isn’t going to the hospital. Even before this declaration.

If you are in a hospital and go into a cardiac arrest, depending on the telemetry you are on, they might be able to save you. But probably not.

Cardiac arrest is not a heart attack, where an artery is clogged.


75 posted on 04/02/2020 1:10:56 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: stanne

We are agreeing, silly. You are getting worked up at the wrong person.

But yeah...you are in cardiac arrest for ten minutes...you don’t want to come back.


76 posted on 04/02/2020 1:12:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Jim Noble
Not doing CPR on dead people is not "allowing them to die".

I agree. I came to that realization later down the thread.
77 posted on 04/02/2020 1:12:16 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Vermont Lt

Read the article. Then also stop posting to me. Illogic.


78 posted on 04/02/2020 1:13:45 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; All

Cardiac arrest is survivable.


I’ll vouch for that. I went into cardiac arrest last summer on vacation. Thank God, my son & DIL were able to start CPR right away. The EMTs arrived within a few minutes. I was taken to the hospital a few blocks from our resort and cardioverted there. Not sure if they just placed CPR machine on me or tried to restart heart at the resort. Don’t remember, :) But I’m alive and kickin’ and grateful every day for my second chance that I was given. If this policy is true for ALL cardiac cases, then it greatly disturbs me.


79 posted on 04/02/2020 1:14:41 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: RJS1950

Do people here just need to hate New York?

“It says don’t bring any cardiac arrest patients who are still, if barely, alive. It implies a hospital imposed DNR for cardiac arrest.”

No it doesn’t. Here is what it says:

“...the NYPD or medical examiner can be called to remove the body; the patient is not to be brought to the hospital.

The FDNY says the department will document each instance this occurs.

Emergency officials tell NBC News the measure will alleviate an influx of patients from going to the hospitals that have no hope of being saved.”


80 posted on 04/02/2020 1:15:58 PM PDT by stanne
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