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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; Mark17; MHGinTN

MGHinTN says that Jesus only DNA from God the Father.

I see several problems with this interpretation.

1st Problem. Gabriel specifically told Mary that she would have a Son. This would imply that Mary contributed to this process ... and that she would not merely be a surrogate.

2nd Problem. All of the other times that conception is mentioned in the Bible, the Mother supplied the egg. For example, I’m pretty sure that when God told Eve ‘I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and conception’ that Eve biologically provided the egg.

3rd Problem. It was prophesied that Christ would be an Israelite through the tribe of Judah. If Christ had no Isrealite/Jewish genetic material this prophesy would be false.

4th Problem. St.Luke provides Mary’s genetical lineage to King David to fullfill Old Testament Prophecies. If Christ had no genetical link to David ... that would leave the prophesies unfullfilled.

5th Problem. God is immortal .... if Jesus had the complete DNA of God the Father, he could never have experienced death. Christ’s DNA was not changed to immortal until after the resurrection.

6th Problem. St.Paul’s description (1Cor 15:21) “For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.” Would be totally false since Christ would have no relationship to mankind.

Summary: I’m pretty sure that your twisting biblical evidence to fit your per-conceived “Homoousios” requirement which a non-baptized Emperor Constantine dictated/coerced in the Nicene Creed. Which along with the Apostolic and particularly the Athanasian Creed is the basis for the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’.

If it weren’t for your necessity to conform the Bible to the Creeds .... you likely wouldn’t reject the plainness of the Bible.

St.Paul understood this when he wrote:

“And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2Tim 4:4)


166 posted on 04/04/2020 2:27:39 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe
You once again tried to assert as true what you want to prove: you asserted, "1st Problem. Gabriel specifically told Mary that she would have a Son; This would imply that Mary contributed to this process ... and that she would not merely be a surrogate."

The Bible says Mary would conceive and bear a son. A surrogate bears the child who implants in the womb. So assuming got you nowhere, again.

Yes, I claim the DNA that built the physical body of Jesus was from God, but I have not and will not claim God The Father Almighty has DNA from God or that God would have DNA. The Word of God says flatly that God IS SPIRIT and must be worshipped in Spirit and truth. Are you claiming spirits have DNA? Where would you get that one??? You have to assume it in order to support your desired outcome, so you failed again, citing as axiomatic that which you are trying to prove for your moronic cult.

You and I do not know where GOD brought the essentails to make Jesus a Jewish human with the Life of God in His SPIRIT>. Your cult's problem is Where did the soul and spirit of Jesus originate. The Word of God tells you His Spirit was always with God AND WAS GOD IN THE VERY BEGINNING. You just will not accept that Jesus is not a created being.

Are you aware that the geneology of Jesus as a Jew is listed through Joseph, not just Mary? You can assert lots of things, but you have yet to show where the Bible explains where the chromosomes of Jesus came from to form the embryo. With access to all of time and space, it is just as reasonable that the embryonic Jesus came from Bathsheba or Ruth or Rahab. You are getting nowhere, even as you number a list of assertions without evidence.

From your cult's list (3&4) you have not shown where the chromosomes came from just that Jesus had Israeli blood so the prophecies were fulfilled. You have made assumptions to fit the thing which your are seeking to prove.

DNA is an information code. Show me proof that God the Father Almighty has DNA. You canno, so this is yet another effort to assert as proof that which you are trying to prove, namely that God was once a man who had DNA. You're so far batting 0.

In typical cultic mind meanderings, you have projected upon me the very errors your cult has taught to you. You cannot have God being doubled minded, yet that is precisely what your sexual predator founder displayed through the time he 'directed' the duped Mormons He is ushering into Hell, tou included. Not one of the items on your little list is accurate because you and I do not know from where God brought the DNA to form the Body of Jesus. Your cult founder assumed God copulated with Mary. You don't like that fact exposed, so you have an elaborate mental exercise aimed at proving God used an ovum from Mary. There is absolutely no proof of that in the Bible.

Such assumptions that your cult is founded upon might have made sense to folks not actually familiar with what can be done in embryology, but that assumption is not based in proof from The Word of God. Continue to reject truth and your heart will become so hardened to the truth that you will be a lost soul and spirit.

168 posted on 04/04/2020 3:38:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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