[LeonardFMason]

30-50 times higher than reported MINIMUM.

[SomeCallMeTim]

I think the death toll in Wuhan alone was well over 100,000... possibly more than 200,000.

That would be applying statistical norms seen in the rest of the world... even assuming HALF the mortality rate seen elsewhere

China lies... a LOT!

[Levy78]

of course it is... never trust the cold, calculating lizard brain of the Chinese.

[Dr. Ursus]

A friend’s gal pal father’s left that area at the start of cv-19.He said that everyone believed it was a bio weapon.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

1 million +

Humans are disposable in communist/fascist regimes. We learned that lesson in the 20th Century on multiple continents.

[null and void]

My initial guess was that the CCP was downplaying it by 10X. Maybe I was wildly optimistic...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

[BenLurkin]

Boris Johnson said 14-40 times greater

[1Old Pro]

Yep, 4 thousand deaths was really closer to 50,000

[Lazamataz]

China will be an international pariah after this.

Mark my words.

[Montaignes Cat]

Wuhan is the 8th largest city in China, but I haven’t seen figures for the larger cities (Shanghai, Beijing, etc) or the other 20 cities with populations over 4 million.

[shotgun]

And then there is the issue of the 21 million cancelled cell phone accounts, which is very odd unless they locked that many up and they don’t need to be tracked any longer.

[volunbeer]

This virus has been devastating and the final narrative will not be kind to China despite their attempts to spread propaganda.

China’s lack of basic food safety in the face of dire warnings for decades about wet markets began the pandemic.

China’s communist regime, in typical communist fashion, covered up and suppressed the news hamstringing the rest of the world in their response.

China has lied continually about the real numbers and dangers. The numbers of dead and infected and the economics of this virus would be far less severe throughout the world if they had been honest.

China refused entry or real data to Western health officials that could have helped prevent spread and impact of the pandemic.

China proved to be an unreliable partner for necessary goods.

China attempted to spread obvious lies and propaganda blaming the US for their failures.

China’s control of the WHO and the UN is apparent and they were partners in the systemic failure leading to this world-wide crisis. In fact, the WHO appears to be an accomplice that put their relationship with China ahead of their stated purpose.

[knak]

I came across a twitter page today that says it is a parody page but has a lot of videos coming out of China right now. Quite interesting. Hoarding, riots, and even one that says a community is closing down again.

Harry Chen PhD