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Birx: US could see up to 200,000 coronavirus deaths if 'we do things almost perfectly'
The Hill ^ | 3/30/20 | Justin Wise

Posted on 03/30/2020 1:40:44 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus

White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx on Monday warned that up to 200,000 people in the U.S. could die from the coronavirus outbreak if "we do things almost perfectly."

In an appearance on NBC's "Today," Birx stressed that the Trump administration remains "very worried" about every city in the United States and the possibility that the virus could get "out of control." She also noted that some metropolitan areas "were late in getting people to follow" social distancing requirements and that it had an effect on the virus's spread.

"If we do things together well, almost perfectly, we could get in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 fatalities," Birx said after being asked about U.S. projections related to the outbreak. "We don’t even want to see that." She added that the administration's models show a worst-case scenario of between 1.6 million and 2.2 million deaths if the U.S. were to enforce zero restrictions on travel and gathering. Asked about whether 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in the U.S. was a best-case scenario, Birx emphasized that a best-case scenario would be "100 percent of Americans doing precisely what is required."

"But we’re not sure based on the data ... that all of America is responding in a uniform way to protect one another," she added. "We have to factor that in."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: Nero Germanicus

We might hit “200k”...if they keep counting strokes, heart attacks and car accidents as “CORONA!!!” so long as they test positive.


61 posted on 03/30/2020 2:14:05 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Chgogal

Which means that they will have to stretch this out until the end of Trump’s second term in order to accumulate enough for their purposes.


62 posted on 03/30/2020 2:14:51 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: montag813
We might hit “200k”...if they keep counting strokes, heart attacks and car accidents as “CORONA!!!” so long as they test positive.

Wonder since they have had to develop so many different tests with some test failures if they are getting positives from recovered folks dying of things you describe ?

Does the test they use only respond to 'live' virus ?

63 posted on 03/30/2020 2:17:12 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: TheConservativeParty; All

NOTHING else couldda took down Pres. Trump & the US Economy.

Something REALLY STINKS here.....


64 posted on 03/30/2020 2:19:08 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (God Bless President Trump!)
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To: Brian Griffin
Unless you have a robust immune system, hide away until you get a CV vaccine shot sometime next year.

The vast majority of healthy people have robust immune systems. Forcing healthy people into hiding instead of letting them be exposed to the virus prevents them from developing immunity which is ultimately what will kill a virus by decreasing the number of viable hosts.

No vaccine is ever as effective as natural immunity because the vaccine only contains inert proteins or killed or attenuated viruses, thus the antibody formed is not to a live, replicating virus but to some inert substance or protein.

How can it be claimed that only a vaccine-created immunity would protect the herd, and natural lifelong immunity does not?

I for one plan on getting tested for immunity to Coronavirus as soon as the tests are made available. If the test shows that I indeed have natural immunity, there is no need for me to get vaccinated for my own health OR the health of the community at large.

65 posted on 03/30/2020 2:19:25 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: dynoman

Are these two public servants bound by some oath, bowing toward London, to menace the populace with numbers that are ludicrous on the face of them?


66 posted on 03/30/2020 2:22:45 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Nero Germanicus

I don’t follow her resoning.

Caronavirus has a 14 day incubation period so if I physically contacted a person judged “positive,” after 14 days and I remain free of the virus, I am OK. Project that to the few who have had contact, and the millions with none; then theoretically, the virus is dead. Of course, some contacts got out of hand. But if health investigators are on their toes and aggressively deal with those who fell between the cracks, then it becomes a controlled virus. If these pundits would use the word, “could” instead of the word “will” they would be more believable.


67 posted on 03/30/2020 2:26:20 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

It puzzled me when DjT yesterday admitted there could be as many as 100,000 deaths as Fauci & Birx had been talking. It seemed counter-intuitive to his posture over this WuFlu.

IMHO, DjT’s team reminded him of the business adage; “under promise, and over deliver.”

To over-promise and fail is trouble for a Presidency and this is one time DjT’s exaggerations could get him in trouble.


68 posted on 03/30/2020 2:27:03 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Geez where is she getting these numbers?? They dont even have that amount in Italy and Spain COMBINED where they are still dropping like flies..geez totally overblown we will NEVER EVER have numbers like that


69 posted on 03/30/2020 2:29:55 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Leep
Have there been 10,000 deaths yet? Let me know when we get to 10,000. Thanks

We're on the doubles every 3 days line.

Right now we're about 3000 dead.

In three days we'll be about 6000 dead.

In 6 days we'll be about 12,000.

Check back Friday, the trend shows we'll be close to your magic 10,000 US deaths by then. You're welcome...

70 posted on 03/30/2020 2:32:57 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

In NY (only) so they claim because I consider them like China, they are doubling infections (not deaths) EVERY 6 DAYS, not 2 days, not 3 days, not 4 days....


71 posted on 03/30/2020 2:39:03 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: null and void

Not saying its true but we know the left cheats during elections.
So, why is a stretch to believe they might be cheating with the death numbers.
Attributing regular flu death to the Coronavirus?
I am sure that in a city as large as NYC it would be easy to find a handful of crooked doctors willing to say anything for $$$


72 posted on 03/30/2020 2:44:46 PM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: null and void

By the way you rounded up to nearly 3,000 from 2,400?


73 posted on 03/30/2020 2:53:56 PM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: 353FMG

“Distrubute Hydroxychloroquine for Pete’s sake.”

I agree!! What they haven’t realised is they have given Trump an easy target if the Chloroquine fix works. He will be able to credit himself for saving 160,000 deaths. (I am guessing we come in around 40,000 maybe quite a bit lower)


74 posted on 03/30/2020 2:54:02 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: madison10

Where did theWhite House dig up Brix and Fauci???


75 posted on 03/30/2020 2:57:52 PM PDT by MGunny ( Al)
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To: Leep

At 6:00 pm Monday EDT we are at 2,960 fatalities.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


76 posted on 03/30/2020 3:01:56 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Chaguito

Dr. Birx pointed out at a presser that the London model was revised down by a factor of 25 last week.

She’s being misrepresented on this thread. Watch these videos for the complete picture.

Dr.Birx “we’re hoping the models are not completely right, that we can do better than the predictions are”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg—anohtSQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2900

Dr Fauchi, more on models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg—anohtSQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3001


77 posted on 03/30/2020 3:05:37 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: babble-on

You are correct. You used to be able to get some good information or debate here on FR comment section but it’s getting harder to find with all the emotional fill.

I’m starting to read just the posted article and skip the rest if it looks like things are headed South. I’m almost didn’t get to your post.


78 posted on 03/30/2020 3:07:08 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: nutmeg

I am asking the SAME questions! Last Friday it sounded like EVERYONE was dialing back their estimates of the seriousness of this outbreak, especially in light of the dramatic shift from the UK College researcher...

And then less than 48 hours later, the “pause” guidelines have been extended for ANOTHER MONTH and we’re hoping for only 100-200K deaths rather than 2.2 million? Right now we are currently at just under 3,000 deaths in two months but now those numbers are going to increase more than 10 fold?

What in the heck changed over the weekend??!!


79 posted on 03/30/2020 3:07:40 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know Who holds the future!)
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To: elpadre

See post 77


80 posted on 03/30/2020 3:07:58 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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