Posted on 03/30/2020 7:29:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Residents of Wuhan, China, even know the government is lying about the death toll from COVID-19, and they’ve figured out as much based on the number of urns funeral homes have been returned to families.
The city has seven large funeral homes, and each has been returning the cremated remains of approximately 500 people to their families every day, and yet, the official government figures put the total death count around 2,500.
#Wuhan residents estimate, based on calculations of cremations and urns now being returned to families, that between 42k-46k (!!) died in city + surrounding areas in the 2.5 months of lockdown. Far more than official figure of 2535 deaths. #COVID19 https://t.co/L1OsFv0VEf— Eileen Guo (@eileenguo) March 29, 2020
Seven funeral homes currently serve Wuhan -- a huge conurbation of three cities: Hankou, Wuchang and Hanyang.
Social media users have been doing some basic math to figure out their daily capacity, while the news website Caixin.com reported that 5,000 urns had been delivered by a supplier to the Hankou Funeral Home in one day alone -- double the official number of deaths.
Some social media posts have estimated that all seven funeral homes in Wuhan are handing out 3,500 urns every day in total.
Funeral homes have informed families that they will try to complete cremations before the traditional grave-tending festival of Qing Ming on April 5, which would indicate a 12-day process beginning on March 23.
Such an estimate would mean that 42,000 urns would be given out during that time. (RFA)
"It can't be right ... because the incinerators have been working round the clock, so how can so few people have died?" one Wuhan resident told RFA last week.
"They started distributing ashes and starting interment ceremonies on Monday," he said.
Other estimates put the figure even higher.
Another popular estimate is based on the cremation capacity of the funeral homes, which run a total of 84 furnaces with a capacity over 24 hours of 1,560 urns city-wide, assuming that one cremation takes one hour.
This calculation results in an estimated 46,800 deaths. (RFA)
During the peak of the epidemic the government brought in cremation workers from across the country to help Wuhan’s crematoriums work around the clock, according to locals.
“Anyone looking at that figure will realize, anyone with any ability to think," one Wuhan resident said of the official figure. "What are they talking about [2,535] people?"
"Seven crematoriums could get through more than that [in a single day]."
[So, am I to assume that in a city of 10 Million people plus its suburbs, that none of them have ever passed away before from anything other than bat gazpacho flu?
China reported a death rate (TOTAL) of 7000 per 1,000,000 people in 2017. Wuhan + surrounding area, say 14 Million?
In a TYPICAL year, that part of the world will deal with 98,000 human remains from all causes. Not saying the chicoms are telling the truth, but some of the alarmist crap needs to be thought upon...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Table_of_births_and_deaths_1950%E2%80%932019
What about the rest of the province? And the rest of China? My guess is a minimum of the low hundreds of thousands. Based on the numbers were seeing out of Italy, and merely multiplying by 20 to size up to Chinas population, Id say a minimum of 200,000 deaths.
Boris Johnson, presumably using MI-6 sources, both sigint and humint, postulates that the total Chinese death toll is 40x the published numbers. That would bring it to the 120K level.
FYI, the flu numbers are a guess. As in they take pneumonia deaths and assume the flu for some %, despite the vast majority of the deceased not having been tested for flu viruses. The actual positive tests are in the hundreds per year. The rest of the tens of thousands of flu deaths are a guess.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Whereas every death coded as covid-19 is an actual. There might be any number of covid-19 deaths that were coded as pneumonia and not tested for the covid-19, but they aren’t in the covid-19 deaths number.
LOL! Excellent!
Not so sure about this article. Many of the board virologists have the death rate in China much lower.
Look up “boris johnson china deaths”
So you want Fox to somehow divine some numbers that refute the obviously bogus PRC numbers? Or to simply say essentially that “this is what is reported, but we do not believe it?”
It’s a “delicacy”.
I think that China’s very questionable numbers are the reason that people underestimated this virus. With what they told us it didn’t look that bad. It’s easy enough to believe a head of state like Xi when he says that there is a virus that has killed xyz number of people in his country because we expect heads of state to be responsible people. It would be like lying about an earthquake, and yet here we are.
Why run with such a story that is unprovable, and more than likely bogus.
Who originated the story? Why? Did it originally come from the ChiComs? This was THE STORY of the day, last Thursday. Don't you agree the whole thing is bogus?
Remember now, they have 1.4 billion people, we have 350 million. The virus has had a tremendous head start there, since China got it right off the bat.
Commie China's numbers are 100% accurate </FluBros, CNN, DNC, etc.>Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
The false positive rate was 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old farts life, it's worth it.
cuban leaf ~ I already stocked up!
(tastes like chicken)
That's why they call it 'Chicken of the Cave'
BTW, barbecued toad ribs also taste like chicken...
Well Duh.
Seesh, I’m just getting going this morning, my brain isn’t in gear yet.
Red Dwarf Ping!
*ouch*
They have a perfect understanding of politics.
Yep.
It's only slightly less popular than tofu...
Ping List Please
Thanks for the post. I was just getting ready to ask what the normal death toll for that time period is expected to be.
If youre from Guanzhou and work in Shanghai, you have to have a Shanghai phone.
Why?
Because its easier for state security to track you.
So if youre going home, you turn off your phone.
Also because cellphone rates are expensive, people are given company phones. Company closes - no more phone.
Finally, China is economically collapsing. People are canceling all their services.
I have been skimming foreign papers and media the last few days as it is always interesting to see their take on news here in the US. The CCP really screwed the pooch with this thing and there is rising anger in the reporting overseas and an undercurrent of anger in China that I did not expect.
Ironically, there is more respect for Trump and the virus response of his administration overseas than here in the US, but that has been true throughout his administration.
While we do not know what the fallout might be, the editorials here in the US that have labeled this “China’s Chernobyl” might be closer to the truth than we thought?
I think we will see more anger towards China moving forward (well deserved) as more people comprehend how much worse this was made by the actions (or inaction) of the communist party.
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