Coronavirus killing people in New York City at rate of one every 17 minutes

NYPost ^ | 03 27 2020 | Julia Marsh and Vincent Barone

[yesthatjallen]

For the past two days, New Yorkers have been dying at a rate of one every 17 minutes, according to the latest grim citywide statistics.

On both Thursday and Friday, another 84 people died in the city from the coronavirus, as the number of positive cases and of those who are critically ill also climbed.

The COVID-19 death toll in the city was 450 as of Friday evening, up from 366 reported fatalities in the morning.

Total citywide coronavirus cases rose to 26,697, up 4.4 percent from the 25,573 reported in the morning.

Mayor de Blasio warned Friday that critical resources to combat the outbreak in the country’s epicenter could run out by Sunday, April 5, as hospitals remain completely overwhelmed.

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[Justa]

“Washington has a 4.7% death rate.”

See, this is what I’m talking about. It’s not 4.7% of the entire population, it’s 4.7% of the people they tested who tested positive and are hospitalized.

[Robert DeLong]

Oh I know all about them. Hypochondriac worry warts. 8>)

[going hot]

Be careful. Too much sense and they will start swinging hockey sticks at you.

[dljordan]

What are they dying from?

[lepton]

Except the total deaths in the state isn’t over 1,000 yet.

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On the other hand, even if it were universally contagious and universally fatal - which it clearly is not - it still wouldn’t be very high yet in the sense you are speaking. It takes on average, from symptoms, about 2 weeks to die, and up to 7 weeks. South Korea has turned the corner, so their fatalities/case rate has risen from under 0.3%, then stabilizing for a bet at under 0.6%, to just over 1.5% with few new cases coming in.

And before that generally at least 5 days before symptoms.

While one should not over react, one should be concerned when you see a car coming at you, to step out of the way, rather than pretend it doesn’t exist until it has not only run you down but you’re at the hospital with an amputated leg.

Simple respect for the *actual* danger this represents would have saved NYers and others a lot of pain, both in many fewer getting sick and those doing so at a more gradual rate, and in fewer crazy government over-reaches and over-reactions.

[palmer]

...it’s 4.7% of the people they tested who tested positive and are hospitalized.

Nobody suggested it was 4.7% of the entire population. It is 4.7% of all the people who tested positive, not just those who are hospitalized. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus

[Texas Eagle]

Hallelujah. Thanks for the praise report.

[DPMD]

Think about 8 million crowded into the five boroughs; democrat environmentalist plans are for the US population to be stuffed into urban hubs, living in massive highrise projects next to public trans hubs. Imagine the ideal conditions for the spread of a disease that would result.

[Fresh Wind]

Roughly 2.8 million people die in the US every year, the population of the US is roughly 330 million, and the population of New York State is roughly 19.5 million.

Using these figures, the normal death rate in NYS is about 165,000 per year, from all causes.

That would be about 452 per day.

[Texas Eagle]

Strange how that falls on deaf ears.

[Fresh Wind]

NYC is about 8.4 million, NYS is about 19.5 million.

So, if 452 die per day in the state, about 195 die per day in NYC.

[equaviator]

“17”

Really?

[Justa]

Ok, I’ll play along.

And what are their testing criteria? How many kits did they have? Are they blind testing or selective testing (big clue)? What population are they testing? Are they just testing corpses?

Extrapolating their results to the entire population, like it’s 4.7% of all people, is complete hysteria BS.

[PTBAA]

Do the math, it is an additional 1/4 the number that dies on average every day. If we weren’t actively looking for this virus, we’d chalk it up to a bad flu year and move on.

[palmer]

Blind testing (random testing) is stupid. The tests have at least a 1% false positive rate. The WHO tests had 10% false positive rate. So obviously they mainly test symptomatic or exposed persons. Otherwise we would have a 99% fake epidemic.

The testing the US shows as high as 10% positive, some places lower than that. Which means they are picking up 1 misdiagnosis along with the 10 correct positives. There is also a false negative rate which they don't talk about. As testing becomes more widespread the fake cases will start to approach the real cases. And even then there will be unknown numbers of missing cases.

But as for your insinuation that Washington state is missing lots of cases, therefore the death rate is lower than they say, that is correct. They are missing lots of cases and nobody really knows how many.

[yoe]

"Trump has been crucified for making similar such comments."

Of course he is...the liberals, Deep State and anti-Americans are finding things in this pandemic that gleefully fit their narrative...the Russian thingy didn't work, the impeachment was also a flop and President Trump moves ahead for America and Americans of all stripes in spite of Schumer and Pelosi in lock step with the Squad, who it would seem have taken over.

Pelosi owns this: "Senior GOP Source: Pelosi and Schumer Making Non-Coronavirus-Related Demands While Holding Up Relief Bill".... Pelosi was stuffing the bill with her personal agenda. Trish Regan was fired for exposing the left's agenda...they are still trying to overthrow President Trump...(Treason use to be a crime)...this however, is their pick for potus 2020 so far.......

[SgtHooper]

Or did the bullet kill them first, and it go added to the virus count?

[yoe]

"If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you..."

Then It Is Very Probable That impeachment didn't work

[fuzzylogic]

Testing will be meeting demand, at which point either there’s an increased/decreased rate or it’ll flat-line. Until then knowing the mortality rate is still guesswork.

[fuzzylogic]

Did you look at the data? That isn’t what it shows.

Do you have another source that provides a load of data? I’m only stating what the data is showing today, not that I *know* what the real rate will be as a final result. That isn’t knowable yet.