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How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear
Spectator : US ^ | March 26, 2020 9:42 AM | John Lee

Posted on 03/28/2020 8:44:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

There is room for different interpretations of the data

In announcing the most far-reaching restrictions on personal freedom in the history of Britain nation, Prime Minister Boris Johnson resolutely followed the scientific advice that he had been given. The advisers to the UK government seem calm and collected, with a solid consensus among them. In the face of a new viral threat, with numbers of cases surging daily, I’m not sure that any prime minister would have acted very differently.

But I’d like to raise some perspectives that have hardly been aired in the past weeks, and which point to an interpretation of the figures rather different from that which the government is acting on. I’m a recently-retired Professor of Pathology and National Health Service consultant pathologist, and have spent most of my adult life in healthcare and science — fields which, all too often, are characterized by doubt rather than certainty. There is room for different interpretations of the current data. If some of these other interpretations are correct, or at least nearer to the truth, then conclusions about the actions required will change correspondingly.

The simplest way to judge whether we have an exceptionally lethal disease is to look at the death rates. Are more people dying than we would expect to die anyway in a given week or month? Statistically, we would expect about 51,000 to die in Britain this month. At the time of writing, 422 deaths are linked to COVID-19 so 0.8 percent of that expected total. On a global basis, we’d expect 14 million to die over the first three months of the year. The world’s 18,944 coronavirus deaths represent 0.14 percent of that total. These figures might shoot up but they are, right now, lower than other infectious diseases that we live with (such as flu).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cases; chinavirusmortality; corona; deaths; statistics
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A most excellent article.

Goes to the heart of assessing where the numbers related to CoVid 19 and the statistics that are being given to us.

Is it flawed? In my opinion, absolutely.

Was the disease engineered in the lab? I am not sure.

Is is as deadly as we are assuming? No.

Figures never lie, but Liars Figure.

1 posted on 03/28/2020 8:44:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Oct 2007
Clin Microbiol Rev. 2007 Oct;20(4):660-94.
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus as an agent of emerging and reemerging infection.Clin Microbiol Rev. 2007 Oct;20(4):660-94.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934078


2 posted on 03/28/2020 8:49:23 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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To: Texas Fossil
Figures never lie, but Liars Figure.

Yep - and them figures become gospel to the fearful hordes.

3 posted on 03/28/2020 8:51:02 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Texas Fossil; All

Will China Profit from the Outbreak?...

https://www.wionews.com/videos/gravitas-wuhan-coronavirus-will-china-profit-from-the-outbreak-289014


4 posted on 03/28/2020 8:53:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: GailA

Thank you


5 posted on 03/28/2020 8:58:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

This media driven hysteria is coming to and end a lot sooner than many believe.

The proof?

I ewalked into my local food store this morning and on the shelves I found

TOILET PAPER!!

After 10 days of shelves being emptied as quickly as they are filled, people are returning to sanity.


6 posted on 03/28/2020 8:58:32 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: trebb

Yes, the sheep.

ComDem subjects and useful idiots.


7 posted on 03/28/2020 8:59:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: PGalt

Thank you.


8 posted on 03/28/2020 9:00:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Why is it still not clear? Based on projections a month ago our hospitals would be overwhelmed by now .


9 posted on 03/28/2020 9:00:30 AM PDT by gawatchman
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To: Texas Fossil

I read somewhere about the Chinese virus and blood type. So I looked it up:

It turns out there’s a lot of (relatively) blood type A in europe. Lot’s of China Virus.

Where is there alot of A in the USA?

NorthEast Coast, Louisiana, and the Northwest (WA). Same as the epi-centers.

Huh.

India which has a hugh population and is right next to China, has almost no China virus. Lot’s of type B’s there, same for the Korea’s.

Same goes for alot of the mideast, like pakistan, iran (lot’s of A’s too) and iraq. Lot’s of B’s,


10 posted on 03/28/2020 9:00:31 AM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Texas Fossil
We risk being convinced that we have averted something that was never really going to be as severe as we feared.

Which means that every time a new strain of pathogen comes along, we'll get the exact same response.

11 posted on 03/28/2020 9:02:22 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Texas Fossil

Seriously scary part: It doesn’t need to be ginned up in a lab. All the bad actors need are infectious vics who have a new bug and are still ambulatory, add some plane tickets to the target of your choice....Voila!

And if our enemies hadn’t figured that before, you can bet they have now.


12 posted on 03/28/2020 9:02:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: JPJones

That doesn’t bode well for me. I think I’m Type A ... but I’m not positive.


13 posted on 03/28/2020 9:03:31 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: mewzilla

I think that China did figure it out.


14 posted on 03/28/2020 9:04:04 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt m)
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To: independentmind

The ChiComs aren’t the only ones.


15 posted on 03/28/2020 9:05:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: gawatchman

How many places have been under shutdown for a good part of that past month?

Do you think those measures had nothing to do with the lack of cases?


16 posted on 03/28/2020 9:05:16 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mewzilla

Pretty sure they knew that before now.


17 posted on 03/28/2020 9:06:00 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Texas Fossil

Compare the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak in 2003 with the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak now.

“The NIH scientists, from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases’ Montana facility at Rocky Mountain Laboratories, compared how the environment affects SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-1, which causes SARS. SARS-CoV-1, like its successor now circulating across the globe, emerged from China and infected more than 8,000 people in 2002 and 2003. SARS-CoV-1 was eradicated by intensive contact tracing and case isolation measures and no cases have been detected since 2004. SARS-CoV-1 is the human coronavirus most closely related to SARS-CoV-2. In the stability study the two viruses behaved similarly, which unfortunately fails to explain why COVID-19 has become a much larger outbreak.”

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317150116.htm


18 posted on 03/28/2020 9:06:53 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: billyboy15

Big toilet paper Bump!


19 posted on 03/28/2020 9:07:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

I understand Germany has conducted a massive amount of tests, with their death rate at 1/2 of 1%. .05—much lower than others, and less than predicted—far below panic worthy, probably less than annual flu, iirc.

That’s where we’ll land, much to media’s chagrin.


20 posted on 03/28/2020 9:08:22 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." I'm goin' ahead.)
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