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Dr Anthony Fauci Backtracks on Deadliness of Virus
OAN ^ | 3/27/2020 | OAN.com

Posted on 03/28/2020 5:43:14 AM PDT by jazminerose

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the health specialist on the coronavirus task force, has said the virus’s mortality rate is closer to that of a bad case of the flu. In a Thursday report published by the New England Journal of Medicine, Fauci conceded COVID-19’s death rate was twice that of the common flu, making it roughly 0.28 percent.

That rate is exceptionally low, especially when compared to that of the SARS and MERS epidemics, which peaked at 9 percent and 36 percent respectively.

His latest comments marked a major about-face for Fauci, who previously claimed the coronavirus was 10 times as deadly as the flu.

“The seasonal flu that we deal with every year has a mortality of 0.1 percent,” he said. “I think if you count all the cases of minimally symptomatic or asymptomatic infection, that probably brings the mortality rate down to somewhere around 1 percent, which means it is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; chinavirusmortality; coronavirus; covid19; fauci; hydroxychloroquine; hysteria; who
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To: Western Phil

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161 posted on 03/28/2020 5:34:13 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Gulf War One

Thanks.

They probably get a free cruise. It was probably a good deal before corona.


162 posted on 03/28/2020 6:50:34 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Kazan

“The population of the U.S. is estimated to be about 332,630,000. So the 2.3 percent in the latest poll would translate to more than 7.65 million people.”

So what you are saying is that CCP-19 has surpassed the worst-case, in-season flu fatality daily rate by 50% and only 2.3% of the population were diagnosed with CCP-19?

Well, I am not going to quibble over whether it’s 1% or 2.3% or some other tiny percentage, but I’d want to check the internals of that poll if it were me counting on it to prove the other guy’s main point.

20% of the population get the flu every year. We have vaccines and some herd immunity, so it keeps the infected numbers down. Nobody has been exposed to CCP-19 before the past few months, and we have no vaccine, so no herd immunity at all.

About a 10th as many people have been diagnosed with CCP-19, your study claims, but people are dying at a rate 1.5 times the bad flu on a bad flu day. (Why are they not in the national stats? Maybe it’s you or your poll that are full of it. But, what ever, dude.) Assuming this spreads only as much as the flu, to a mere 20% of the population, it will still crash our healthcare system - even if we stretch it out for the equivalent of a full flu season. Because our HCS is scaled for a 100% flu season, not a 150% flu season.

Again, why are the stats this poll implies not reflected in the national data? With 7.65 million cases there should be about 150,000 surplus unexplained bodies somewhere, 375,000 unavailable ICU beds and a 1.5 million hospital bed shortage. Where? They haven’t even done 1,000,000 tests nationwide, yet (maybe about that, now), how could there be 7.65 million diagnosed cases? Unless everything they have told us in the news conferences, government reporting and even all of the media and all of the foreign data sources is completely false. So, yeah, I question your “poll”. A lot. And you.


163 posted on 03/28/2020 7:59:33 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: CodeToad

“You don’t know that either. You’re still guessing and claiming to foretell the future.”

I am, indeed making predictions. Got a crystal ball of your own?

But my foretelling of the future, sadly, has been pretty on track. You know, that math stuff.


164 posted on 03/28/2020 8:02:36 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: PIF

I believe those numbers....thankfully we are not China....


165 posted on 03/28/2020 8:08:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cgbg

if you wanted the wanted a random test the Diamond Princess was not it....people were all mostly all very elderly...


166 posted on 03/28/2020 8:10:17 PM PDT by cherry
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To: BobL

do we have wet markets in the US?....you know, where people walk down an alley with screaming dogs and cats waiting to be sliced open?...where dead bats are lined up for dinner?..where there is blood in the gutter?......


167 posted on 03/28/2020 8:15:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

You haven’t been to New York City recently, I can see.


168 posted on 03/28/2020 8:15:44 PM PDT by BobL
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To: MNJohnnie
I work in a hospital on a floor that is designated for covid......we are practically empty....two cases that I know of were positive...no one has died....

somebody is judging the figures and not releasing info as it comes in...

the state govt of Washington state are happy to not report numbers so we the rabble can continue on with this charade.....

169 posted on 03/28/2020 8:41:05 PM PDT by cherry
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To: calenel
You're clueless and thick headed. The death rate is nowhere near what fantasize it is. It is well under one percent. Most of those that have had it never were tested and/or didn't know they had it.

You want to assume the worst about the virus. It's some physiological defect you have.

170 posted on 03/28/2020 8:49:39 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: calenel
Get it through your skull -- the confirmed death to confirmed case rate tells absolutely NOTHING about what the actual death rate is>

READ IT:

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/03/16/80-of-COVID-19-spreads-from-people-who-dont-know-they-are-sick/7771584372104/

March 16 (UPI) -- People who don't know they have the new coronavirus may be unintentionally driving the spread of it, an analysis published Monday in the journal Science suggests.

Using data from China -- where the COVID-19 outbreak originated -- epidemiologists developed a mathematical model of infectious disease spread. The model estimates nearly 80 percent of confirmed cases of the disease originated from so-called "undocumented" cases, or those who experienced mild, limited or no symptoms and went undiagnosed as a result.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-unknowns-explainer/what-we-dont-yet-know-about-the-coronavirus-idUSKBN21F0GK

Some researchers estimate that up to 80% of people who are infected show no or only mild symptoms and may not even know they are sick. That would put the number of people who might have been infected in the millions. But we need many more studies and much more testing to close in on a more accurate number.

171 posted on 03/28/2020 8:57:23 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Using data from China..........you lost me right there!!!


172 posted on 03/28/2020 9:18:34 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Nice try...But China isn’t putting out data that makes its case and death numbers appear underreported.


173 posted on 03/28/2020 10:27:21 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

You are kidding....right???


174 posted on 03/28/2020 10:34:04 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

China isn’t putting out false data that makes its lies about the number of cases and deaths look less credible than they already do. Get it?


175 posted on 03/28/2020 10:45:38 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: calenel

I’m wondering now about George Webb’s theory of at least two strains of the virus. One a more deadly one where lots die. This one not as prevalent as the other which is the one where you can have the flu and not even know it.The deadly strain could explain the increase in deaths while still dealing with a newer version of the flu.
Just a guess I’m not a research doctor nor do I play one.


176 posted on 03/29/2020 1:19:30 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: Travis McGee

I love that graph, esp. the one regarding deaths. Number of cases is almost meaningless, due to its dependence on testing.

But around forty percent of US deaths are in NY. I think that if you were to pull out NY and make the presentation as deaths per million population, the US would be tracking pretty low in the array.


177 posted on 03/29/2020 1:46:55 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Chaguito

Even more amazing is that Kevin SHipp, cia whistle blower, and Jason Goodman, you tube host, made the rounds in NYC recently and had a hard time finding the overworked or filled to capacity hospitals. Didn’t seem to exist. Was it just a fluke.Did they look in the all wrong places or is there more,we may never know.


178 posted on 03/29/2020 1:54:00 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I wouldn’t assume we can trust all of the data coming out of our own country either.

Look how Fauci was spouting bogus WHO data until Trump outed him.


179 posted on 03/29/2020 3:38:42 AM PDT by jazminerose (Why do democrats hate black people?)
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To: Chaguito

Do you think it’s just going to stay high in NY?

Did it stay in Wuhan? Milan? Madrid?


180 posted on 03/29/2020 4:32:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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