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Coronavirus modelers factor in new public health risk: Accusations their work is a hoax
WaPo ^ | 3/27/20 | William Wan and Image without a caption William Wan National correspondent covering health, science

Posted on 03/27/2020 5:25:00 PM PDT by semimojo

Running beneath it all, in a continuous loop through our national psyche, are basic questions leaders are struggling to answer: When can we safely lift these quarantines? How many people could die if we do it too early? Just how dangerous will this pandemic turn out to be?

This is why epidemiology exists. Its practitioners use math and scientific principles to understand disease, project its consequences, and figure out ways to survive and overcome it. Their models are not meant to be crystal balls predicting exact numbers or dates. They forecast how diseases will spread under different conditions.

But one factor many modelers failed to predict was how politicized their work would become in the era of President Trump, and how that in turn could affect their models.

In recent days, a growing contingent of Trump supporters have pushed the narrative that health experts are part of a deep-state plot to hurt Trump’s reelection efforts by damaging the economy and keeping the United States shut down as long as possible. Trump himself pushed this idea in the early days of the outbreak, calling warnings on coronavirus a kind of “hoax” meant to undermine him...

After Ferguson gave new testimony to British officials Wednesday, they hailed it as evidence that Ferguson and other experts were overselling the coronavirus threat. Fox News host Laura Ingraham wrongly stated that in his testimony Ferguson’s projection had been “corrected.” The chyron on her show Thursday night stated, “Faulty models may be skewing COVID-19 data.”

But in fact, Ferguson had not revised his projections in his testimony, which he made clear in interviews and Twitter. His earlier study had made clear the estimate of 500,000 deaths in Britain and 2.2 million in the United States projected what could happen if both took absolutely no action against the coronavirus.

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1 posted on 03/27/2020 5:25:00 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
This is really a media problem and the lack of curiosity and patience in the consumers of news.

Not enough people look beyond the headlines on these studies and so miss the caveats.

2 posted on 03/27/2020 5:27:16 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

There are interviews being given on TV by Doctor after Doctor to the newsmedia and nobody mentions Hydoxychloroquine as a treatment. The medical personnel complains that the death rate is high. Does the medical profession have their heads where the Sun don’t shine?


3 posted on 03/27/2020 5:29:42 PM PDT by chopperk
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The media should have considered this when they were destroying their credibility all these years.


4 posted on 03/27/2020 5:33:46 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: semimojo

Simple rule: if they have to keep convincing us it is serious, it isn’t. If it was a major catastrophe, most people would have people close to them suffering, and we wouldn’t need the constant escalation of liberty robbing steps, because people would be isolating as a matter of self preservation, without being told to.


5 posted on 03/27/2020 5:33:52 PM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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To: Codeflier

Great tagline!


6 posted on 03/27/2020 5:36:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((FearRepublic.com -WuhanDeathBros keeping media panic narrative going 24/7 to bring down Trump)!!!!)
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To: semimojo

I suspect that epidemiology is a farce, like psychiatry.


7 posted on 03/27/2020 5:37:10 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: semimojo
Ann Banrnhardt says they are cooking the death numbers from this corona virus.

The people who died with only corona virus would be 1/100 th of the death toll. 99% of the corona virus deaths had other diseases like cancer,H1N1 flu etc.

So they couldn't say it was the corona virus that caused the death but they are.It could have been the H1N1 flu that the deceased also had that caused the death but they are adding it to the corona virus death toll.

So the death rate and tolls are really much much lower than they are saying it is (lower than the flu). And they are destroying the USA and planet for some false statistics and to win the election , to get one man:

Ann Barnhardt explains it more and better why these death stats are extremely exaggerated:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/03/24/wait-just-a-damn-minute-italian-figures-are-with-not-from-coronacold-19/

8 posted on 03/27/2020 5:40:00 PM PDT by rurgan (Democrats are socialists. Vote for Trump or the US will be Venezuela)
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Interest points you make.

So, it may very well be that people dying from the flu are being counted as virus cases. When this is all over, the math will reveal itself and the liars too.


9 posted on 03/27/2020 5:43:17 PM PDT by Professional
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To: semimojo
Neil Ferguson = Snake Oil Salesman with a far left political agenda.
Probably safe to bet he is a card carrying Trump hater and a climate change Evangelist to boot.
10 posted on 03/27/2020 5:47:28 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: chopperk

“Does the medical profession have their heads where the Sun don’t shine?”


Short answer: YES

Who pushed their heads to where the Sun don’t shine?

Short answer: Big Pharma, FDA

They have pushed the publics head to where the Sun don’t shine also to suppress the information as to the effectiveness of Vit C


https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/vitamin-c-protects-against-coronavirus/

“Curing the Incurable” - Dr. Thomas Levy, (includes over 1200 scientific references).


11 posted on 03/27/2020 5:50:21 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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(includes over 1200 scientific references)

If you need to advertise this the article deserves a quack alert.

12 posted on 03/27/2020 5:53:49 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Codeflier
Simple rule: if they have to keep convincing us it is serious, it isn’t.

So it isn't serious until people are dropping?

You don't think a little warning can sometimes help?

13 posted on 03/27/2020 5:56:05 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: SmokingJoe
Probably safe to bet he is a card carrying Trump hater and a climate change Evangelist to boot.

I doubt British scientists are as Trump obsessed as you think.

14 posted on 03/27/2020 5:58:14 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Codeflier
Good point.

Ann Barnhardt says 99% of the corona virus deaths had other co-morbidities like cancer or the H1N1 flu. So only less than 1% of the death toll they keep blasting all over the media had only corona virus. So this seems weaker than an average common cold or common flu but they are making it out to be like the pandemic of all time and destroying the economy, country and planet all to get one man.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/03/24/wait-just-a-damn-minute-italian-figures-are-with-not-from-coronacold-19/

15 posted on 03/27/2020 6:01:38 PM PDT by rurgan (Democrats are socialists. Vote for Trump or the US will be Venezuela)
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To: semimojo
I doubt British scientists are as Trump obsessed as you think.

You'd be surprised. I was in London during Trump's last visit for the NATO anniversary. The amount of sheer venom directed at him from the media was something to behold.

16 posted on 03/27/2020 6:02:24 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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The amount of sheer venom directed at him from the media...

Scientists aren't completely apolitical but don't confuse them with the media.

17 posted on 03/27/2020 6:08:10 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

The ones giving the warnings can’t be trusted. So, unfortunately, yes is my answer.


18 posted on 03/27/2020 6:09:33 PM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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To: semimojo
Why not?
The scientists in America, especially in the universities are highly political. There was some survey posted here on FR a few months back in which something like 95% of all university professor political contributions went to the Democrats.
Sure they have an agenda.
19 posted on 03/27/2020 6:12:38 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I think arithmetic is a fraud, like astrology.


20 posted on 03/27/2020 6:17:30 PM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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