Posted on 03/25/2020 6:48:00 PM PDT by BusterDog
"Clinical course is predictable. 2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias(back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell, anorexia, fatigue.
Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.
Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.
81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical."
Where did you school at...?
And did you do a Fellowship?
If you did where?
Sorry if this is intrusive,,,I just like to "trust,but verify"...
BTW..who said that?
I haven't done any math on any scenarios. The math already has been done on every single person in every scenario whom has been tested thus far - we have that data and the math has been done.
Your "math" is not math at all. You have no input data whatsoever yet ASS-U-ME that there are multitudes who have the disease, but somehow the untested have vastly different results than the tested.
IOW, you're the math-idiot, not everyone else. Not only do you suck at math, but science and debating too.
https://resident360.nejm.org/discussions/covid-19-case-reports
Many covid case histories, and some discussion by the docs.
Texas has been great. I’m glad they added the Doctor tag. I’ve been getting most of my good info from the doctors.
Gig Em Aggies! I’m class of ‘84
“So everybody who comes into his ER has COVID-19. Thats a bit beyond belief.”
I think he means at present, yes,
“Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town.”
Thanks Pelham.
Just let this play it’s course especially when asymptomatic individuals are getting internal damage “without feeling a thing”. /s
My point is the uncertainty of this crap, which should be massaged carefully because we don’t know jack about the long-term physiology impact of this yet. Aggressive infection rate should be handled with at least some care.
Cytokine Storm and Keto Acidosis lead to multiple organ failure usually starting with Kidney failure. Both of which the author mentions.
Once youre in Keto Acidosis the major organs start failing rapidly.
It's an unnamed source on the internet.
i cant deal with that site because it is too intrusive. Are there a lot of cases that mention ibuprofen
So everybody who comes into his ER has COVID-19. Thats a bit beyond belief.
“I think he means at present, yes,”
I wouldn’t go to the ER right now if I got shot as long as the bullet passed clean through.
“so I really dont feel there is any benefit to azithromycin”
That doctor misinterprets the reason for use of Zithromax. It actually has unique (among antibiotics) direct anti-viral action.
Okay if you want to niggle, in the US death rate is only around 10x the flu.
In Italy, mostly because of running out of beds, it's like SIXTY times the death rate of the flu. If we're not careful, we'll run out of beds too.
Any more minutia you'd go through. I have some tweezers somewhere.
This is disheartening. It appears he is not seeing any benefit with hydroxychloroquine with the seriously ill patients. If this proves to be the case in New York as well they are going to exhaust the ICUs and vents quickly.
Governors are banning the use of it.
The whole thing is puzzling
They cannot say anything about any specific patient under HIPPA. And thats OK.
I am not even saying this guy is a doc or that he knows anything.
I was translating his Doctor talk. Some of them have egos. Most ER docs make sure they are understood when dealing with non medical people. My guess is this is a paramedic, EMT or med student. It has a Reddit smell to it.
Thanks. Bump
The death rate of the flu is around .1%. Think I'm wrong? DO a search for "flu death rate .1%" and see what you find.
If you can't do simple math (look at flu deaths divided by cases) or research - refrain from posting. You look foolish or like someone with an agenda. Either way - you look like a tool.
You know... I never even heard of the Spanish Flu till I saw Season 3 of Downton Abbey. LOL... I mean, maybe they told us in school, but it must not have made an impression on me. But boy, once I watched Downton Abbey I was like "Whoa! Spanish Flu BAD!" (Never heard of eclampsia till then either. That really was a great show. First 3 seasons, anyway.)
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