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We Must Isolate The Vulnerable, Gain Herd Immunity, And Put America Back To Work
Townhall.com ^ | March 23, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 03/23/2020 5:57:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Cmon man, the solution here is to kill the patient so we no longer have to worry about it’s health.


21 posted on 03/23/2020 6:26:18 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: 1Old Pro

Dems are trying to blow up the country the same way a divorcing couple ends up sawing a classic Corvette in half.

If I cannot have it, then you won’t have it either.

Blow up the economy and stock market right when the Baby Boomers were set to retire


22 posted on 03/23/2020 6:26:30 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake (Remeber)
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To: Kaslin

If you’re going to do a modified herd immunity approach, that is allowing the virus to spread among the less vulnerable groups and sequestering the vulnerable, you might as well shut the hospitals down when they are overwhelmed.

When the hospitals are well over capacity, they will be ineffective and dangerous. The viral loads dumped on hospital workers make them vulnerable population. It does take some time for a normal immune system to effectively respond to virus, and it can be overwhelmed by a high initial load. There are also concerns with re-infections (antibody dependent enhancement).

You will still need health care workers when this is over.


23 posted on 03/23/2020 6:26:36 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification.)
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To: allendale

“Herd” immunity is like this. Chicken pox doesn’t spread wildly through the community because so many people have had it it has no where to go. This virus has been reported to only induce a brief period of antibody production, if what we read is true. If it is there may never be significant “herd” immunity. We just don’t know. It’s “new”.


24 posted on 03/23/2020 6:26:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

I notice that these “Put America back to work” pieces never come from the angle of businesses I know should be suffering from this.

How about a write-up of a guy whose going to lose his hotel? What about the family with the small restaurant, on the verge of bankruptcy?

Writers producing the Free Traitor agitprop, that this piece is, don’t know any of these kind of people, I guess. The panicked appeal to “civil liberties” is laughable. This is clearly just a “Get my stock portfolio back up” piece.

How about we get the dead into the ground and see a leveling-off of deaths and a control of this thing, first?

If that can’t happen, your going to need to take farming lessons from Mike Bloomberg.


25 posted on 03/23/2020 6:27:57 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Jimmy The Snake
Blow up the economy and stock market right when the Baby Boomers were set to retire

And that my FRiends is it in a nutshell.

26 posted on 03/23/2020 6:28:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: Kaslin

CDC released these figures about the 2017 regular flu season. In 2017, 900,000 people were hospitalized with flu complications and 80,000 died. Not a peep from the government, the media or the medical establishment. The hospitals were not overwhelmed. No cities or states were locked down. It was business as usual and the stock market went up.
Let us find out who is responsible for this ruinous over-reaction for the entire country when fewer than 500 have died in six weeks in America. They are worse than the virus.


27 posted on 03/23/2020 6:34:18 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: zeestephen

Covid-19 is 10x deadlier than the flu. It’s not the flu. I agree we should get back to work but the flu get a whole season to kill people and we don’t take any restrictive measures to combat it. It is not the flu. There is no comparison and comparing it to the flu is ridiculous.


28 posted on 03/23/2020 6:35:29 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Kaslin

There is no such thing as “herd immunity” - only a lack of exposure.


29 posted on 03/23/2020 6:39:12 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt (Dad's wisdom))
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To: Kaslin

The UK was going to take that approach but realized if they did their hospitals would be overwhelmed. They came to their senses and rejected doing that.


30 posted on 03/23/2020 6:39:20 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: wastoute

Simply put if there is no effective vaccine or definitive medication this virus will permeate the population. People who survive this, as in the days of bubonic plague, will have either the genetic capability of not getting infected or the genetic capability if becoming infected but not critically ill or dead. Those that have the genetic susceptibility to the virus and do not have the genetic capability to recover will die off. When this virus circulates enough times those with the genetic susceptibility for severe and infection or those with the genetic susceptibility for infection and associated co- morbid environmental factors will die off and the susceptibility gene will be weeded out of the population. That is true “herd immunity” The problem is there will be a lot of suffering and deadly culling before such “herd immunity” is achieved.


31 posted on 03/23/2020 6:39:54 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Kaslin

I think the point at which we should start lifting restrictions is when we think the medical system is ready with tests, supplies, and drugs. Also a consideration is that the number of cases at least has stop increasing. I would like to see a definite decrease as a jumping off point, a flattening of the curve.


32 posted on 03/23/2020 6:42:04 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: USCG SimTech

That’s true of any virus. They mutate. It’s why sometimes the flu vaccine is effective and sometimes not.

But that doesn’t mean that we should abandon a tried and true technique (vaccinating or otherwise developing herd immunity) just because it doesn’t always work.


33 posted on 03/23/2020 6:42:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: wastoute

Yes, but if the consequences of getting it are generally mild, sometimes to the point of not even being noticeable to victim, then why get hysterical?

Protect people who are likely to have more serious consequences - such as elderly or bed-ridden or otherwise ill people - and let the rest of life go one.


34 posted on 03/23/2020 6:44:52 AM PDT by livius
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To: allendale

...and if there is only transient antibody production there will never be and herd immunity at all.


35 posted on 03/23/2020 6:48:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: central_va

So this guy isn’t an idiot then?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SK02v-gRmp8


36 posted on 03/23/2020 6:49:11 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Kaslin

Apparently, Scott is not very intelligent.


37 posted on 03/23/2020 6:52:49 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: wiseprince
I believe Trump has been consistent about a 15 day “checkpoint” out of an abundance of caution, and that he will push for a return to normalcy at the end of the month with the exception of N.Y. and the surrounding states.

IMHO this will cause even more “gnashing and grinding of teeth” by the elites since this is clearly a bi-coastal/big city pandemic which has left “fly over country” virtually unscathed.

38 posted on 03/23/2020 7:02:03 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: IrishBrigade
I’ve noticed that poster on these threads...quite the agitator, isn’t he/she...?

Same "appeal to authority" (his own) on every thread. Multiple posts. I wish there was a way to block specific posters on FR.
39 posted on 03/23/2020 7:02:15 AM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: zeestephen
Throw USA influenza statistics in their face - every hour, every day.

Also, ask them to put a best-guess number on how many dead they predict from this bug. When they're wrong, we'll have them on record.

Wastout wouldn't do it...which I found fascinating.
40 posted on 03/23/2020 7:04:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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