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That's scientific evidence was published in Nature Cell Research - probably the most prestigious scientific journal in that field in the world. Nature is "anecdotal evidence" to Dr. Tony "lost the fastball" Fauci.

Breezed right by that 'in vitro' part, didn't you? Just because the combination may show results in a test culture doesn't mean it will automatically work in people. This may well provide an effective treatment for Covig-19 but it needs to be tested with people first, as Dr. Tony "lost the fastball" Fauci has correctly pointed out.

10 posted on 03/22/2020 8:39:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
RE: Breezed right by that 'in vitro' part, didn't you?

But wait,there's more... did you read through the entire article?

We hear from Wang, M., Cao, R., Zhang, L. et al. in Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro. Cell Res 30, 269–271 (2020).

Wang et al writes,

"Our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease."

That's scientific evidence was published in Nature Cell Research - probably the most prestigious scientific journal in that field in the world.  Nature is "anecdotal evidence" to Dr. Tony "lost the fastball" Fauci.

But perhaps I do not know how to interpret this scientific result properly - right? I am a scientist. Yet, maybe I'm a rube?  A deplorable perhaps?  I am definitely not Medal of Freedom winner! So maybe the plain English "clinical trial" doesn't mean "clinical trial."  So we'd better not take my word for it.

Let's take Belgium's word for it, instead.

Belgium has issued official guidelines calling for use of Hydroxychloroquine as a first-line treatment for COVID19. See page 3 and 4 of link below.

One stated reason:

"Results of Gautret’ study have been just released and confirm that viral positivity in respiratory secretions (measured by PCR) is significantly decreased at day 6 in Hydroxychloroquine-treated COVID-19 patients (n=26) versus those with supportive care (n=16 controls): 30% positivity versus 87.5%, p<0.001). This observation strongly supports the current choice of Hydroxychloroquine as first-line treatment; we suggest to keep the current recommended dosage (see Table), which is pharmacologically very close to that used in Gautret’s study. "

That "Guatret study" that Belgium references is a scientific one! Not a ramble told while drunk on the job in D.C.!  The nation of Belgium stating emphatically that the "current choice of Hydroxychloroquine as first-line treatment" is justified because of its review of the science... is irrelevant to the Fauci poo-poo. But his name was not on the paper so it didn't matter?  The official position of an entire European country offering official guidance to every doctor in the land during a 100-year epidemic is...just an anecdote.

That is, it's an anecdote to a preening narcissist bureaucrat in Washington D.C. for whom no evidence is sufficient...unless HE says so with cameras on him!  I'm sure the Belgians are impressed.

But again don't take my word. Take China's.

China includes chloroquine in the recommendations regarding the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 pneumonia, so reported in International Journal of Microbial Agents:

If you get COVID19 in China, the official guidance to doctors says to give you Hydroxychloroquine. 

"The  drug  is  recommended  to  be  included  in  the  next  version  of  the  Guidelines  for  the  Prevention,  Diagnosis,  and  Treatment  of  Pneumonia  Caused  by  COVID-19  issued  by  the  National  Health  Commission  of  the  People's Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future."

You may read more about the official Chinese national guidance to all doctors in the scientific journal Bioscience Trends.  A journal apparently considered to be a twitter feed by the blathering Fauci.

Why do you think China has had such a radical improvement in its caseload?  There are a collection of papers online in broken English, written by excited Chinese medical doctors, telling the world they are using Chloroquine and it's very effective.

China may be a lot of things.  But they are not dumb. Politically, the government there is glad enough to look like heroes for issuing orders to give everyone chloroquine, because it will save the lives of ten million Chinese.  You have to be a lifetime American bureaucrat to not figure this out.

Official government guidance to doctors! From the world's most populous nation! With the largest COVID19 infection! Which has shown the largest drop in caseload! This is "anecdotal evidence" to Dr. Fauci and America's FDA.  These imbeciles are so busy making the paperwork go faster for you (while America plunges into the grave, and the fix is on the shelf at Walmart?) that they are incapable of noticing anything that happens outside the beltway. But don't you feel better that he has a Medal of Freedom?  And that a month from now, he'll get back to you about that pill-thing?

Two national governments, multiple peer reviewed studies, a clinical trial, the most prestigious journals -  these are not high-enough for Mr. Medal Dr. MD-PhD Fauci.  He's above all that. Maybe the type of the research - performed by your beltway buddies - dismissing the work of the French, the Chinese, and the Belgians -  is more important than ten thousand innocent lives plunging into the mass-grave dug with a back-hoe? After all, you're big MF, MD-PhD, on TV! The standards must be impossibly high.

44 posted on 03/22/2020 9:02:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: DoodleDawg

It was tested on people in France, currently being used on people in New York and officially recommended by the National health officials of South Korea after its successful use there.


106 posted on 03/22/2020 11:22:52 AM PDT by CMAC51
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