Posted on 03/22/2020 8:28:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[Editor's note: Lack of FDA approval does not prohibit off-label use of drugs for other threapeutic purposes, but would inhibit widespred use.]
You are being lied to about the drugs that heal COVID19.
America's FDA, and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, are dragging their feet on approving a drug that provides very strong positive effect on COVID19.
Fauci, speaking from the White House, said on the matter of approving Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin:
"It's it's essentially what I said multiple times from this podium. Is that when you have, first of all, we're trying to develop de novo drugs that are not yet out there, not that approved, that ultimately will be effective. And the way you prove that is to do a randomized controlled trial to prove safety and efficacy. Uh, I am not a totally sure what the the President was referring to, but I believe he's referring to a report that used both Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin together uh to have some uh possibility of being an effect. Many of the things that you hear out there are are what I had called anecdotal reports. They may be true. But they’re anecdotal."
Please notice that Dr. Fauci just called the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin against COVID19 anecdotal. That will be very important in a moment.
Fauci continued, "So the only thing that I was saying is that if you really want to definitively know if something works that you've gotta do the kind of trial that you get the good information," by which he dismissed the body of scientific work that supports the use of Hydroxychloroquine.
Fauci went on,
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Big Pharma will not make much money if the most effective treatment involved cheap, a 70 year old, genetic drug.
That is a misrepresentation of how FDA approved medications are applied to new illnesses. If your belief were true then it would also apply to the other drug in the combination - azithromycin. But do you really believe anybody thinks we should suspend dosing people that have ARDS with antibiotics because the cause of the respiratory distress is a new virus?
If you fully applied your logic, then we would need a double blind placebo study to determine if washing your hands, or wearing a mask, was safe and effective against COVID-19. After all, in the world of worrying about whether or not existing, proven medicines should be used you might also want to run a test to prove that hand washing with certain soaps didn't accidentally cause some greater risk.
Obviously we don't do that. Instead we apply scientific knowledge and testing. The widely published research from France used a direct, objective measure of viral load to show that the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin combination worked to clear the virus from the patient and return them to health.
There is no harm to gathering more data, but controlled tests that include a placebo component in an epidemic are not appropriate when a treatment is known that has been shown to be effective and safe in even a limited clinical trial. Equivalent data can be gleaned by comparison of data from randomly selected patients treated with various drug combinations as compared to patients that had the illness before the treatments were developed.
Never mine. There is the editor’s notes right at the top.
Wang et al writes,
"Our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease."
That's scientific evidence was published in Nature Cell Research - probably the most prestigious scientific journal in that field in the world. Nature is "anecdotal evidence" to Dr. Tony "lost the fastball" Fauci.
But perhaps I do not know how to interpret this scientific result properly - right? I am a scientist. Yet, maybe I'm a rube? A deplorable perhaps? I am definitely not Medal of Freedom winner! So maybe the plain English "clinical trial" doesn't mean "clinical trial." So we'd better not take my word for it.
Let's take Belgium's word for it, instead.
Belgium has issued official guidelines calling for use of Hydroxychloroquine as a first-line treatment for COVID19. See page 3 and 4 of link below.
One stated reason:
"Results of Gautret’ study have been just released and confirm that viral positivity in respiratory secretions (measured by PCR) is significantly decreased at day 6 in Hydroxychloroquine-treated COVID-19 patients (n=26) versus those with supportive care (n=16 controls): 30% positivity versus 87.5%, p<0.001). This observation strongly supports the current choice of Hydroxychloroquine as first-line treatment; we suggest to keep the current recommended dosage (see Table), which is pharmacologically very close to that used in Gautret’s study. "
That "Guatret study" that Belgium references is a scientific one! Not a ramble told while drunk on the job in D.C.! The nation of Belgium stating emphatically that the "current choice of Hydroxychloroquine as first-line treatment" is justified because of its review of the science... is irrelevant to the Fauci poo-poo. But his name was not on the paper so it didn't matter? The official position of an entire European country offering official guidance to every doctor in the land during a 100-year epidemic is...just an anecdote.
That is, it's an anecdote to a preening narcissist bureaucrat in Washington D.C. for whom no evidence is sufficient...unless HE says so with cameras on him! I'm sure the Belgians are impressed.
But again don't take my word. Take China's.
China includes chloroquine in the recommendations regarding the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 pneumonia, so reported in International Journal of Microbial Agents:
If you get COVID19 in China, the official guidance to doctors says to give you Hydroxychloroquine.
"The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future."
You may read more about the official Chinese national guidance to all doctors in the scientific journal Bioscience Trends. A journal apparently considered to be a twitter feed by the blathering Fauci.
Why do you think China has had such a radical improvement in its caseload? There are a collection of papers online in broken English, written by excited Chinese medical doctors, telling the world they are using Chloroquine and it's very effective.
China may be a lot of things. But they are not dumb. Politically, the government there is glad enough to look like heroes for issuing orders to give everyone chloroquine, because it will save the lives of ten million Chinese. You have to be a lifetime American bureaucrat to not figure this out.
Official government guidance to doctors! From the world's most populous nation! With the largest COVID19 infection! Which has shown the largest drop in caseload! This is "anecdotal evidence" to Dr. Fauci and America's FDA. These imbeciles are so busy making the paperwork go faster for you (while America plunges into the grave, and the fix is on the shelf at Walmart?) that they are incapable of noticing anything that happens outside the beltway. But don't you feel better that he has a Medal of Freedom? And that a month from now, he'll get back to you about that pill-thing?
Two national governments, multiple peer reviewed studies, a clinical trial, the most prestigious journals - these are not high-enough for Mr. Medal Dr. MD-PhD Fauci. He's above all that. Maybe the type of the research - performed by your beltway buddies - dismissing the work of the French, the Chinese, and the Belgians - is more important than ten thousand innocent lives plunging into the mass-grave dug with a back-hoe? After all, you're big MF, MD-PhD, on TV! The standards must be impossibly high.
The protocol would be to give it to anyone in the hospital in life threatening condition (since most of us apparently recover on our own). Addresses the immediate problem of outstripping hospital resources.
Establishment tool???
Yes he’s a bureaucrat who kissed up to Hillary Clinton when she was grilled before Congress.
His letter to her is all one needs to know about his political affiliation.
But there’s more. Fauci is a vaccine pusher aligned with Bill Gates, a known eugenicist who wants everyone everywhere vaccinated with vaccines he owns the patents for.
Not thinking this prediction is accurate.
The antimalarial drugs are being used now. In China, Israel, Australia, France and in NYC at the very least.
Lenox Hill has a 100 patients so far treated w/antimalarias. The doctor from Lenox Hill said that his colleagues at other NYC hospitals were all using this drug or a combo containing itas well. The first million doses are earmarked by FEMA to be sent to NY shortly per POTUS.
Waste of time. There’s nothing preventing doctors from prescribing this medicine now if they feel it will help their patients.
“cheap generic drug”
Damned auto-correct.
A physician may prescribe it to anyone for any reason they deem necessary. This is fake news and more hysteria
Easy fix. Just declare the largest clinical trial in history, where the entire population of the US is in the pool of potential patients.
All under a doctor’s supervision, of course.
Hydroxychloroquine is an FDA-approved drug already.
This is a phony issue and a distraction.
until there are clinical trials it is anecdotal. You do understand the definition of anecdotal? That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work
While thousands of Americans lie dying, the citizens of Belgium and France and China are given Hydroxychloroquine and are recovering. Having gotten off their butts and done the research those nations, while Fauci and FDA was strutting around wondering how to fill out paperwork faster, deserve credit for publishing actionable scientific conclusions.
But maybe Fauci and FDA will get back to you in the “record time” of one month? You know, when there’s a million cases and two hundred thousand in the hospital, a hundred thousand in ICU and twenty thousand dead. The very careful, very safe Lost the Fastball Fauci, for whom no scientific evidence is anything but anecdotal, will let you die, because there’s not evidence rising to his august level, to give you a pill that has been shown by science to heal you.
I think Fauci could have been read that way initially but he has moved past that position into being a denier of the body of work that has been published & reported. Effects of the antimalarials against other corona viruses was published in 2009. Many independent labs and hospitals have tried the therapy against COVID-19 with good results.
The pressure by Fauci to concentrate on untested new drugs suggests a motive to benefit Big Pharmy at the risk of serious side effects and the morbidity & mortality from not using a safer agent which is showing good results and long term has had small scale & manageable complications.
The kissy emails that have been unearthed between Fauci & Clinton call his judgement into question and suggest the possibility of an anti-Trump bias, unconscious or more overt.
There is no problem with off-label usage right now.
I am sorry you have such a twisted and incorrect view of a large group of our fellow Americans.
Novartis will donate enough doses of malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to treat several million patients in the fight against the coronavirus, if it wins approval, the Swiss company said on Friday.
Novartis makes the malaria drug, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, at its Sandoz unit in the United States.
Novartis has 50 million doses in stock, and hopes to produce another 80 million by the end of May for donation. The donations may be sufficient to treat several million patients, depending on the dosing regimen, Novartis said.
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