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Coronavirus: ISS, In Italy There Are Only Two Deaths Ascertained So Far Due To Covid-19
Agenzia Nove ^ | 03/13/20

Posted on 03/18/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Rome, 13 Mar 19:12 - (Agenzia Nova) - There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. "Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years - 80.3 to be exact - and are essentially predominantly male," said Brusaferro. "Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases ", but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that "little more than a hundred medical records" have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.

These are the first minimum detailed data provided so far by the Civil Protection on the causes of death of coronavirus patients. At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from "Agenzia Nova", in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the great majority of the victims "had pathologies

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; italy; twodeaths
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To: Enlightened1

There is no story at your link.


81 posted on 03/18/2020 7:30:25 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: palmer

If isolation Is not possible then slowing the spread is not possible so what is your point?


82 posted on 03/18/2020 7:31:47 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ecomcon

I wonder why we work so hard to keep it that way?


83 posted on 03/18/2020 7:32:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Wissa
This could spiral down into Great Depression levels of a slowed economy, and it took a long time to crawl our way out of that one.

Your history is incomplete. The government tightened credit at the beginning of the GD. Then FDR's government control of everything lengthened the GD for a decade longer than it would have lasted. The reason we haven't had panics like before the GD, is a lot more informed populace and regulation. Not perfect but much better than it was.

84 posted on 03/18/2020 7:33:35 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You seriously don’t get it.


85 posted on 03/18/2020 7:33:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Wuli

A pragmatic hard working country. A healthy economy is vitally important to fighting disease and other natural disasters.


86 posted on 03/18/2020 7:33:52 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety; ChildOfThe60s
Phony stats made it a big issue. If every person was tested for HIV and it was discovered that even 20% of the population was positive it would indicate the HIV was not a particularly dangerous virus.

You're kidding, right? The reason there are so many people walking around with HIV now is because drugs were developed to keep them alive, before that happened the vast majority of them sickened and died.

87 posted on 03/18/2020 7:33:56 AM PDT by x
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To: palmer

See Fauci on Ingraham. The main reason is that there is significant mortality among healthy people (much higher than flu).

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The article this thread is based on proves Fauci wrong. Only 2 of the dead in Italy were healthy prior to contracting the virus.


88 posted on 03/18/2020 7:34:00 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: MD Expat in PA

I think the 21 year-old DID have leukemia symptoms. The article reporting his death said he had contracted COVID-19 while “battling” leukemia.


89 posted on 03/18/2020 7:34:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: Enlightened1

Do you believe President Trump? If not why?


90 posted on 03/18/2020 7:34:21 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: palmer

I’ll forward your advice to my buddy. He in turn will tell his manufacturer who I’m sure will tell the shippers and thereby notify the drivers.


91 posted on 03/18/2020 7:35:22 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Wissa

When people fear becoming unemployed they stop spending money. When people stop spending money, all the people that would have sold them goods and services can no longer do so.

Besides cutting back on entertainment spending, people will postpone buying new furniture and cars and everything else.

The thing about the economy is that every time a dollar is spent, it is earned by someone else. If people stop spending, somebody else’s income drops, and they in turn hold onto their money a bit tighter. This could spiral down into Great Depression levels of a slowed economy, and it took a long time to crawl our way out of that one.


Spot on. The damage to consumer confidence is staggering. We’ve never had an event like this. I suppose World War II curfews and rationing would be the closest thing.

A lot of my neighbors have homes with mortgages requiring two incomes. I am particularly concerned about the Housing sector. High umemployment = foreclosures = financial businesses failing = trillions more in bailouts for Wall Street.

Last night I was thinking the cost could be $5 trillion for shutting down the economy mid flight. We could looking at $10+ trillion by the time it is all done.


92 posted on 03/18/2020 7:36:28 AM PDT by lodi90 (flubro)
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To: wastoute

Get what? I understand cholera is a nasty disease. I also get we’re not shutting down society because of it.


93 posted on 03/18/2020 7:37:05 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: FreedomNotSafety
No, you are misrepresenting your own comments and my comments. You said:

Your best bet is for as many people to get WuFlu as quickly as possible while isolating yourself. Once the US has gained herd immunity (north of 60%) you will be much safer.

That is wrong on two counts. First because Chris37 and others would not be able to isolate away from the 60%. Second because 60% spread would be a disaster with the high mortality, about 10x greater than flu, among healthy and young people.

94 posted on 03/18/2020 7:37:19 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: lodi90

History will not be kind to this generation for a lot of reasons.

I’ve said for a month that it is not the virus I fear. It is the response.


95 posted on 03/18/2020 7:38:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Which state?


96 posted on 03/18/2020 7:38:45 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: palmer

Most 7-11’s can barely handle 10 cars parking. What do you think will happen with tractor trailers?


97 posted on 03/18/2020 7:39:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Because we spend Billions treating drinking water. Ever wonder why we “waste” all that money?


98 posted on 03/18/2020 7:40:04 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: bramps
Only 2 of the dead in Italy were healthy prior to contracting the virus.

That's incredibly unlikely. Goes against the experience elsewhere especially among medical workers who were mostly healthy.

99 posted on 03/18/2020 7:40:42 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: lodi90
You vastly underestimate the effect on consumer confidence the Wu Flu Panic is causing.

You are ignoring the fact that 90% of the panic is fake. Some is real of course, based on real risk. But when that risk subsides in warmer weather the panic will subside too.

100 posted on 03/18/2020 7:42:31 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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