Posted on 03/18/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Rome, 13 Mar 19:12 - (Agenzia Nova) - There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. "Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years - 80.3 to be exact - and are essentially predominantly male," said Brusaferro. "Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases ", but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that "little more than a hundred medical records" have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.
These are the first minimum detailed data provided so far by the Civil Protection on the causes of death of coronavirus patients. At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from "Agenzia Nova", in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the great majority of the victims "had pathologies
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Also I would like to see the same stats on US COVID-19 patients and deaths thus far -- one would think that since that cohort is still dominated by Kirkland, that we would see similar numbers.
Doood - we here at FR care about you!
It’s pretty heavy. I’m not one who usually suffers from anxiety either. What makes it worse is I can’t really go out and exercise without feeling like I’m taking a significant risk in doing so.
As Chris Plante just said, I hope this turns out to be the biggest fraud in US history. I really do. That would be frickin’ great. We could all look back and say, oh boy, did we get played, and then we just go on as we were. I pray for this.
Only 12 deaths caused by coronavirus have been ascertained so far.
For example, why would people stop buying the latest iPhone? Before this crisis they would have. After this crisis, they will.
This is different than the credit crisis, yes. And death by gunshot is different from death by strangulation. But you’re still dead.
Real bad. You crap 20 liters a day.
I’ll answer the question. Not very. Cholera is a nasty disease but not much of a threat. It’s caused by bacteria, not a virus. It’s entirely preventable and there is both a vaccine and treatments after catching it. There hasn’t been a major outbreak in this country in over a hundred years.
I keep asking people on the internet if they personally know of someone that has the disease. So far, crickets.
This is shocking.
Agree. And just in the last day here I’ve seen reports of dozens and dozens of Freepers and their coworkers losing their jobs/small business. No exaggeration.
The Wu Flu Panic of 2020 will go down as one of the great manias in history.
Ebola is pretty bad too. Almost no one gets it.
Phony stats made it a big issue. If every person was tested for HIV and it was discovered that even 20% of the population was positive it would indicate the HIV was not a particularly dangerous virus. But we will ever know because only sick gay people are tested and even then they only are diagnosed with AIDS if they have at least 1/27 politically defined illnesses or diseases.
I go for my walk-trots every day. Why is going for a walk a problem?
I walk in town, about 3 miles. I pass maybe 3 people while doing this. We nod at each other and say hello. We pass maybe within 5 feet.
Maybe it’s because I’m in a town of under 3,000 people.
Can't do ANYTHING outside in public without feeling that way thanks to the volume and quantity of "expert opinions"....especially here at FeaRRupblic
“Your best bet is for as many people to get WuFlu as quickly as possible while isolating yourself. Once the US has gained herd immunity (north of 60%) you will be much safer.”
The Netherlands is making that it’s official national Cov-19 policy - get “herd immunity” while protecting the most vulnerable.
Mnuchin just told they Republican senators that if the government doesn't throw out a trillion dollars in stimulus, the unemployment rate could get up to 20%. I didn't see where he said what the rate would be WITH the stimulus.
When people fear becoming unemployed they stop spending money. When people stop spending money, all the people that would have sold them goods and services can no longer do so.
Besides cutting back on entertainment spending, people will postpone buying new furniture and cars and everything else.
The thing about the economy is that every time a dollar is spent, it is earned by someone else. If people stop spending, somebody else's income drops, and they in turn hold onto their money a bit tighter. This could spiral down into Great Depression levels of a slowed economy, and it took a long time to crawl our way out of that one.
What to know about leukemia survival rates
There are several factors on leukemia survival rates such as if it is Acute or Chronic, the age at diagnosis and how early it is caught.
“It is also one of the most common cancers for people under age 20. The survival rate is higher for younger people.”
Anecdotal:
Some 30 years ago I worked with and was friends with a young woman whose 3-year-old was diagnosed with leukemia who was being treated at Johns Hopkins. It was a rough road – chemo left the child bald and often sick but she started getting better. I lost track of them but I ran into the mom +/- 24 years later and asked about her daughter. She was doing great, had just graduated college and entering into post graduate studies and was engaged to be married.
I knew a woman who was on a non-profit board I was on and she had been diagnosed with a form of chronic leukemia at around 30 years old and when I knew her at age 40, she was doing great and required little treatment at that point.
The wife of my ex-husband’s nephew was diagnosed with acute leukemia in her mid-30’s and died less than 6 months later. But in her case she’d been feeling unwell for the better part of a year (fatigued and often catching colds and other viruses) and had been “diagnosed” with all sorts of things – Lyme’s, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome until she finally went to a specialist who ordered a bone marrow biopsy, but by then it was pretty much too late.
A 21-year-old and otherwise healthy individual, depending on the type and how long he’d had it, could have an excellent outcome. In this case he was unaware he had leukemia and so likely wasn’t having any symptoms of it as yet so presumably it was early onset. So yes, he didn’t die of leukemia, he died of COVID-19.
There’s no underlying reason for the jobs to not come back right away. In 2008 we didn’t need more granite countertop installers to service house flippers. Those jobs were gone for good and the toxic bundled mortgages represented real losses for many people. No such problems this time.
Who buys a house when they can’t go to McDonalds? Who builds a house when nobody is buying houses? Who buys a truck when they are not working?
You vastly underestimate the effect on consumer confidence the Wu Flu Panic is causing. There will be economic aftershocks hitting us for years from both the panic and the trillions in financial bills it caused.
However considering the current assumptions of lethality, spreading widely right now would be a disaster. Also your notion that older and vulnerable people can be isolated is a nonstarter.
There is virtually no Cholera in the United States
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