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Ellie and Nele: From she to he - and back to she again
BBC News ^ | March 10, 2020 | By Linda Pressly and Lucy Proctor

Posted on 03/10/2020 7:36:42 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Studies suggest that most people who transition to another gender do not have second thoughts. But after two trans men met and fell in love, their personal gender journeys took an unexpected turn, to a destination neither had foreseen.

"I always felt we have a very special history. We have special bodies, and a special connection based on the physical experience we had."

Ellie is 21 and Belgian. Her German partner, Nele, is 24. Both took testosterone to become more masculine, and they had their breasts removed in double mastectomy surgery. Now they have detransitioned, and live again as female - the gender they were assigned at birth.

"I'm very happy I didn't have a hysterectomy," reflects Nele. "It means I can stop taking hormones, and my body will return to looking feminine."

Last year, they both made the decision to end their use of testosterone and start using the female pronouns "she" and "her" again. Slowly their own natural oestrogen has begun to re-feminise their bodies.

"I'm very excited to see the changes," says Ellie.

Their faces have softened, their bodies become curvier. But years of taking testosterone has had one profound, irreversible effect.

At 15, Ellie believed becoming a woman might limit her choices in life. For Nele too, growing up female was not fun.

"It started with puberty, when I was around nine years old.

As Nele matured, there were also lecherous men to contend with.

With her body developing fast, Nele saw herself as too large. She would later develop an eating disorder.

"Too fat, too wide - the thoughts about needing to lose weight started very early."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biology; homosexualagenda; mentalillness; perverts; trans

1 posted on 03/10/2020 7:36:42 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess I’m glad they found each other.

But really, they had to go through and awful lot to just settle down as Lesbians, all because they were seduced by the loud “trans” drumbeat urging them to change into something else.


2 posted on 03/10/2020 7:39:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They belong in a mental institution.


3 posted on 03/10/2020 7:39:47 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The German disease.


4 posted on 03/10/2020 7:40:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is medical malpractice to encourage delusions.


5 posted on 03/10/2020 7:41:16 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Taxpayers got hosed twice, and of course they might change again.


6 posted on 03/10/2020 7:44:39 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is that Conan O’Brien?


7 posted on 03/10/2020 7:47:00 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Now they have detransitioned, and live again as female - the gender they were assigned at birth.

No one "assigned" them anything. They were born female because of those pesky things called chromosomes--they had no Y chromosome to make them non-female. No one can change physical reality by deciding to call something as something it isn't. A clay brick does not become a slate tile just because someone arbitrarily decides to call it that.

The rest of the article indicates that they suffered abuse as children. Perhaps the "doctors" who prescribed hormones and conducted medically unnecessary surgery on them should have explored that more and sent them for appropriate behavioral therapy before agreeing to damage their bodies. Although I suppose doing that would have cut into their profits too much.

8 posted on 03/10/2020 7:47:21 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Kenny500c

Yep. And if they breed or adopt, becoming parents to more fully express and actualize their love, they will probably not be a great influence on the unfortunate kids, IMHO.


9 posted on 03/10/2020 7:49:05 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Munchausen Syndrome must have a lot to do with the decisions of some of these freaks. Most people don’t want to call attention to their shortcomings, peccadilloes and neuroses. These people want the world to look at their pathetic selves in all their dysfunctional glory.


10 posted on 03/10/2020 7:51:15 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In the end the organ that both of these creatures need help with is their brain.


11 posted on 03/10/2020 7:51:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (There is not a climate bedwetter who is not a total hypocrite.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So they changed back to women so they could be lesbians? What? They’re homophobic? Couldn’t abide packing fudge?


12 posted on 03/10/2020 8:05:29 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

bkmk


13 posted on 03/10/2020 8:30:27 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Insanity might just be pleasant for the afflicted.


14 posted on 03/10/2020 8:40:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The one on the left kind of looks like lurch. Image result for lurch
15 posted on 03/10/2020 8:45:12 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“And if they breed or adopt...”

Well, not much chance of them breeding, since testosterone treatments during puberty are quite effective at sterilizing a woman.


16 posted on 03/10/2020 8:57:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Reading stuff like this messes up my brain! I'm beginning to think I want to be a Cantharellus cibarus. /s but only on the mushroom part. It's a beautiful mushroom and a highly esteemed esculent.

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17 posted on 03/10/2020 12:59:15 PM PDT by Fungi
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