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1 posted on 03/08/2020 7:42:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You’d REALLY think that they’d get their stories straight before opening their yaps. How hard is it to have their staff people make some phone calls and align the messages? Really??!!


2 posted on 03/08/2020 7:44:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

One should be able to go buy a test kit at Walgreens, even if it has a significant error rate.

That the CDC restricts test kits is anti-American.


3 posted on 03/08/2020 7:46:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

The media have glommed in to ths aspect of the coronavirus situation, to push a narrative, that the Trump administration has completely mishandled this situation with the virus.

Politically, I’m sure we will see a neat transition, to a narrative that only good Democrats know how to fight public health problems, thus, one should vote Democrat.


4 posted on 03/08/2020 7:46:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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.Gov will always fail you.


5 posted on 03/08/2020 7:48:11 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Do the people running your local medical rackets really want to test so many people? Think about that. It’s not the Trump Administration—not even the CDC. Most local medical people—especially those in local offices—are lefties. The universities screen and educate them to be sure.


6 posted on 03/08/2020 7:50:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Alabama could nest until last Friday Match 6. That sound like a shortage. It wasn't’t even CDC kits. It was state testing not CDC. The requirements from CDC make testing difficult to obtain. Ridiculous. I don’t blame the politicians, I blame the unelected bureaucrats at the CDC. I personally know people who have traveled internationally close to Italy and in/out of additional locations (multiple international terminals) and are sick. They were not tested for Cov-19. They were diagnosed with both Strep and Flu and sent home. They never told them they had no ability to test for Cov-19. Bull shit. Truth should be told even if it’s difficult. F’ckin bureaucrats.
9 posted on 03/08/2020 8:08:54 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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Pence instead moved the goal to next week, when he predicted kits for 1.2 million people would be available.

"Available" will probably mean that the kits will be in large unopened boxes at a small number of state medical facilities. "Available" will not mean "easily accessible for general use."

10 posted on 03/08/2020 8:08:54 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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Once the kits are available, the infected counts will skyrocket, and the press will be on overdrive.


11 posted on 03/08/2020 8:09:55 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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PJ article based on two day old fake news uber-leftist anti-trump business insider article and two-day old fake news BBC article ...

here’s a pence statement from the white house from two days ago (Friday, March 6, 2020):

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/press-briefing-vice-president-pence-members-white-house-coronavirus-task-force-3/

“But the American people deserve to know that we are ready and that, because of the President’s leadership and because of extraordinary efforts by CDC and Health and Human Services and our partners in state labs around the country, we have the testing necessary to be able to provide tests to all the states that have requested it.

As I said yesterday, we’ve been able to provide tests to all the state jurisdictions and labs that have requested it. And I’m pleased to report that all state labs have the test. And now, because of the change that President Trump implemented at the FDA a week ago, now state labs can actually conduct coronavirus tests themselves.

Beyond that, between March 2nd and 5th, we distributed more than 900,000 tests across the country, including 200,000 that could allow 75 individual patients — 75,000 individual patients to be tested.

As the Secretary of HHS just described, by tomorrow another 200,000 tests will be shipped. And by the weekend, another million tests will be shipped around the country, with the expectation that at the end of next week, 4 million tests will be shipped.

We’ve been able to respond to the request of states that have been impacted by the coronavirus. But as I said yesterday, to meet future demand, this week, the President brought together the leading commercial labs in America and asked them to, in effect, partner with the United States in developing tests for the American people.

And I’m proud to say that, just in the last 24 hours, LabCorp, Quest — two of America’s leading commercial laboratories — have announced the test will be available by Monday of this week. The reason that’s important and the reason that meets future demand is because the enormous capacity of these commercial laboratories and others in the country are precisely how we will make coronavirus tests available for your local doctor, available to your pharmacy, and broadly available to the American public.

Tomorrow, Dr. Steve Hahn at the FDA will come to this room and brief in specific our efforts with regard to testing to assure the American public that every effort is being made to provide testing resources not just for state laboratories, not just for universities, not just for hospitals in affected areas, but with the announcement of these major commercial labs, we trust, in a matter of weeks, the coronavirus tests will be broadly available to the public and available to any American that is symptomatic and has a concern about — about the possibility of having contracted the coronavirus.”

so, who you gonna believe: pence task force or business insider and BBC?


17 posted on 03/08/2020 8:52:49 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This thread needs a data dump:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

Over in the CV thread we have found a few errors in the numbers, but they are in the ballpark for all the states.


19 posted on 03/08/2020 8:55:25 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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“Day (weeks) late, dollar short” applies. Cat is out of the bag now...further testing will just help track the community spread, not quarantine/isolation planning....unless you do the Chinese Communist Party thing of mandatory quarantine for all citizens in a city/area with draconian consequences for non-compliance.


20 posted on 03/08/2020 9:00:02 PM PDT by Drago
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In their panic people do not understand how doctors use tests. The tests are administered based on a lab order that must be authorized by a doctor. Doctors only use tests to confirm a diagnosis not to calm panicked patients who want to be tested.

If you have a temperature over 100.4, a wet cough that can be detected by auscultation, and other indications of something other than a standard cold or flu you would be given a COVID-19 test. This is how medicine works. It would be a total waste of the tests to just administer them to every person that was nervous. It would also create a shortage of tests for people that need to have their diagnosis confirmed.

The press is intentionally fanning panic and undermining the jobs of the medical professionals by implying that the problem is out of control because everyone can just buy a test kit at CVS and self diagnose an illness for which they have no symptoms.


22 posted on 03/08/2020 9:03:14 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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What do the detractors want? Trump and the people he has chosen have been working as hard as they can. To date they’ve created 1.4 million test kits and more to come.
You should be asking the contrarian governors why they have not been cooperating with the administration. Especially Washington St. Calif and New York.
Just look how quickly the COVID-19 spread in New York state. Where was Cuomo and why was he sitting on his hands when the Lawyer was diagnosed?


26 posted on 03/08/2020 9:12:23 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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Here's some good news I just posted...

Stanford [University] Medicine COVID-19 test now in use

On Feb. 29, the Food and Drug Administration announced that it was relaxing the restrictions for the use of diagnostic tests for SARS-CoV-2 developed by laboratories in the United States that meet the certification guidelines for high-complexity testing. The new policy allows these laboratories to begin using in-house developed clinical tests for the virus before obtaining the agency’s approval through an emergency use authorization. The FDA noted that “Rapid detection of COVID-19 cases in the United States requires wide availability of diagnostic testing to control the emergence of this rapidly spreading, severe illness.” Laboratories developing their own tests are expected to apply for emergency use authorization from the FDA within 15 days.
Stanford got their in-house approved and in production already. This is the way to do it. The Stanford test is expected to deliver results within 12-24 hours.
28 posted on 03/08/2020 9:33:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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COVID-19 Update As of 03/07/2020 23:33 PST

- * unless noted otherwise, these figures are EOD 03/07.

These numbers include Mainland China and All Others globally

This format allows you to see trends. I'll continue to use it.

Today's figures will not appear here, because we are not at the
end of the day yet, and all other figures are EOD figures.

        Declared Cases
        .         Declared Deceased
        .         .       Declared Recovered
        .         .       .        Declared Resolved
Date    .         .       .        .        Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03    93,160   3,198   50,690   53,888   39,272
03/04    95,425   3,286   53,399   56,685   38,740
03/05    98,387   3,383   55,441   58,824   39,563 
03/06   102,188   3,491   57,389   60,880   41,308
03/07   106,165   3,977   59,965   63,559   42,606
It's not that easy to spot the changes in daily growth.
Here they are:

03/03:  2,223
03/04:  2,265
03/05:  2,962
03/06:  3,801
03/07:  3,977
That's a rather prounounced growth rate. These are just the declared cases
but still...

The last column there shows the numbers of active cases. You will note how
they were dropping, then started increasing again. Here are the last five days
drop & then growth numbers.

03/03:   -494 
03/04:   -532 
03/05:    823 
03/06:  1,745 
03/07:  1,298
Resolved cases are still helping to soften the massive numbers of new cases
declared each day.

We are seeing record breaking day to day large numbers. We had one spell where
the cases were larger for a day or two, but those were special circumstance
numbers. There was a reclassification in China, that saw over 15,000 cases
dumped into the list on one day. The following days was also abnormally high
Other than those two days, we've not see days where we approached 4,000 new
cases per day. As of 19:33 today, we are already at 3,869 cases.

As predicted, the mortality rate that went as low as 5.65% on the 27th, has now
begun to climb again. As of 19:33 it is running at 5.81%, but later tonight that
may be adjusted a bit, up or down. Generally this time of the day it's down
but things are too hectic to predict.

As predicted, the numbers of active cases of COVID-19 outside China, became larger
than the active cases inside China. At 19:03 the numbers of cases outside China
make up 56.99% of all cases globally. At that time there were 44,292 active
cases.

Globally we have held our own with regard to how many cases have been resolved.
The figure stands at 59,802%. I expected to see that recede more. We are still
very close to seeing 60% of all global cases declared resolved.

These numbers address the cases outside of Mainland China.

I will provide the same format for the numbers outside Mainland China.

        Declared Cases
        .        Declared Deceased
        .        .     Declared Recovered
        .        .     .       Declared Resolved
Date    .        .     .       .       Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03   12,890   217     837   1,054   11,836
03/04   15,015   279   1,222   1,501   13,514
03/05   17,832   341   1,685   2,026   15,806 
03/06   21,537   421   1,986   2,407   19,130
03/07   25,470   497   2,871   3,368   22,102
As you can see, these numbers can easily double or more every five days. As new
nations catch fire, the climb will go pretty much exponential. If you like
numbers, I urge you to look at the database I've worked up.

You can study the progression of any category you like.

Lets talk about the United States for a minute. I addressed the issue of the
U. S. catching fire several days ago. There was reason for concern, because two
back to back days saw 46.54 & 45.06 growth. That has dropped back to around
26-28%, but that isn't good either, to be honest. Lets hope things cool off.

The current mortality rate of deceased / deceased + recovered is too high to
take much meaning from. I've seen 14-17% figures, but those are not even in
the same ball park as what the final rate will be.

You can still review them if you access my database. That database has full
figures up until the last report at 19:33 this evening.

There are now 109 nations declaring cases within their borders. 1+

Three nations of the 109 nations or entities outside of Mainland China still
account for over 73% of all active cases outside China at this time. They
are slipping a little, but there is a lot of competition out there. Still
The next tier goes down to the 1,000 - 1,200 level. Those were the EOD
figures for 03/07.

7,134 28.01% South Korea
5,883 22.04% Italy
5,823 23.10% Iran
73.15% of all cases ourside of China...

These are clearly three break-out naitons.

I have a new section that addresses only the cases in the United States.

I have a new metric that explains how many people there are to one case in
each of these entities: Globally, Mainland China, Outside China, and inside
the United States. There is one person in every so many people in each of these entities.

Globally      :  175,665
Mainland China:   77,852
Outside China :  308,248
The U. S. A.  :  637,838
All data below sourced from Johns Hopkins University: LINK

I have been downloading three to five reports per day since 01/27. I have then
worked up numbers that should give a very good representation of numbers that have
been provided to the public via that site.

In my spreadsheet linked below, you'll find global numbers including China. You will
find a separate section addressing just the Outside China figures. Then there is now
also a section with just the United States stats in there. There are also a lot of
special stats broken out for you to browse. The history of 109 nations and their
from day one of their reporting.

You're welcome to it.

COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data

File XLSX

I'd like to apologize to those who may have been accessing my XLS version.

Due to the numbers of nations I am now tracking, the XLS version cannot support
the width of the file I have created. I can no longer provide it without major work.

If anyone wants that version, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

31 posted on 03/08/2020 10:21:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Beware Hillary Clinton and the 25th Amendment.)
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Is there or is there not a shortage of kits to test for the coronavirus?


It depends on what your testing criteria are.

To test an actual suspected infected person? There have been plenty of tests.

To test those who have been in close contact with confirmed infected people? There have been plenty of tests.

To test anyone the confirmed infected person may have exposed? Depends on whether they went to the houses of a few neighbors, or went through Grand Central.

To test everyone who presents with flu-like symptoms twice, so as to avoid false results? Absolutely not.

To randomly test the populace? Not even close.

To exhaustively test everyone out there? There never will be enough, and no one intends for there to be enough.


33 posted on 03/09/2020 12:37:14 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Fauci said this morning that there had been a “glitch” with the CDC’s test kits and so they got behind from that and there was some catching up for them to do now.

Was it merely incompetence or intentional sabotage that got the disease too thoroughly spread here now to stop?

Azar is an old pharma exec who is demonstrating that he will cough up any lie he wants on this.


34 posted on 03/09/2020 12:41:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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You ask the President and you get one answer. You ask Azar and you get a different answer. You ask Pence and you get a third answer. There needs to be one story and if the President wants to be the one putting the word out then the rest of the administration shouldn’t be contradicting him.


38 posted on 03/09/2020 3:34:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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FWIW, this reads to me like someone trying to gin up a game of lets-you-and-him-fight.

I ain’t obliging.


41 posted on 03/09/2020 3:57:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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From Rick Moran, the never Trumper???


43 posted on 03/09/2020 4:30:55 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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