Posted on 03/06/2020 5:51:28 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
Democrats!!!!
Retail deserves to die.
Great news! I trust states like NJ continue to have companies leave for ‘red’ states.
JoMa
I believe you have the order of events in NJ reversed; the foreign permanent underclass isn’t trafficked here to push out fleeing American (working) families - it is to replace them. They’ve been chasing working Americans out of here for years, because they haven’t just taxed individual taxpayers to death - they’ve been chasing out the EMPLOYERS.
They ARE bringing in a poor underclass they can dominate, but that is just so we don’t have ghost towns. The illegals in NJ are now scattered across the state, including some nice areas that would have shut down their public school systems without the influx of imported students/”clients”.
Years ago some Americans left NJ when they retired; now retirees are practically forced to do so (the state property tax freeze program freezes the taxes at a high rate, and the calculated taxes must be paid up front before the difference - over the “frozen” rate -) is refunded the next year). Also, more and more working Americans are leaving as soon as the last child finishes high school; they go to college for less money elsewhere, and aren’t living in a sea of Third World economic refugees seeking others to pay for their housing, “free” public education, etc..
South Jersey in general has been hurting for years; they’ve been leading the state in foreclosures, and I believe that is due to the collapse in the gambling sector.
After avoiding Atlantic City for decades, I was there this past winter and noticed that most dollar slots had been replaced by penny slots that basically functioned as $.30 and $.40 slot machines (you had to bet that many pennies to “cover all the bases” on the machine). I also noticed how many slot machines had themes focused on Asian and Aztec imagery; very odd, but completely understandable. Those aren’t just the growing populations of NJ, but also the eventual heirs to the US.
1. Internet/Online and other forms of competition. 2. A national issue not restricted to New Jersey. NJ not likely to be affected either more or less than national markets generally.
South Jersey in general has been hurting for years
Around here, real estate does tend to be cheaper (though property taxes are high). Also, I'm not finding many opportunities for full-time employment, but maybe that's just me.
I believe the land and even taxes were always lower down by Atlantic City (since less full-time residents means lower school taxes), but in the past 10 years I’ve read things have worsened down there - specifically in the towns (some of which are nice) closest to Atlantic City.
We have problems up here as well (Americans losing their homes as they lose their jobs in northeastern NJ, and an anticipated boom in northwestern NJ never coming to fruition (it resulted in overbuilding, and now vacant properties); our problems were longer-term.
Buy from Amazon.
UPS or Fedex will deliver overnight...
Yep. Order in the evening and Amazon will have it on your doorstep the next morning.
The next significant recession will be just brutal on non Amazon retail. Amazon is a monster now and most don’t realize it.
I think you’re right... Lately, I’ve been looking up homes for sale, just to see what’s out there, and I noticed that property taxes are lower near the beach towns, especially in Cape May County. Of course, a house in a beach town can be very expensive, but the property taxes are lower. If I could move there, I would.
Sounds like most of our state is struggling. What a shame.
One trend I noticed years ago was people winterizing shore homes (far north of Atlantic City), then moving from the suburbs up here in the Newark area to live there year-round - while keeping their jobs up here. The Parkway was never designed for that volume of traffic, and has suffered ever since.
The hardest adjustment I’d have in a shore town is the number of businesses that close when summer ends; the economic activity down there really is seasonal.
Most states were hit by the recession and globalization, but local/state government here in NJ and neighboring NY are making recovery impossible. The taxes are from a time when we had thriving economies, and neither employers or employees see any point in staying here when there are greener pastures in the southeast.
local/state government here in NJ and neighboring NY are making recovery impossible.
This state has a natural beauty - from the Pine Barrens to the ocean - that many outsiders don't know about. This could be a perfect place to live, if not for the politics here... (sigh).
“Having a home at the shore to enjoy on weekends and during the summer months would be a better idea, but, of course, most people can’t afford two homes.”
I believe that is what drove the winterizing of shore homes; when people had both and their children finished school in the northeast suburbs of NYC, they opted to keep the one with much lower taxes.
“This state has a natural beauty - from the Pine Barrens to the ocean - that many outsiders don’t know about. This could be a perfect place to live, if not for the politics here...”
I point that out often here; few states have mountains, the ocean, farmland, etc. in such close proximity. It really was an ideal place to live, and politics destroyed it.
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