Posted on 03/06/2020 1:00:37 PM PST by NobleFree
They DO interfere with our interest.
And as an aside, The Godfather was wrong. It DID interfere with his interests because they NEEDED his political power and the other families would have come after him.
Even if Sonny didn’t screw up so bad with his big mouth, there’s SO MUCH money in narcotics and if the families couldn’t deal narcotics without Corleone’s protection, then it’s war until he gives in.
At least that was my take :)
I said that H1B does interfere with our interests.
I got a huge earful from one of my boys who had a master’s degree in physical chemistry and was a highly skilled scientific programmer. He worked at an H1B shop (after Mastering out of a Ph.D. program with a Chinese tyrant professor), and he really opened my eyes as to how abusive the H1B program is to American STEM graduates.
I’ve posted on it before, but would be happy to rave on for a few paragraphs if you’re interested.
But, who can’t love the first two GF movies?
rave on. ;-)
I’m sitting near Sprint HQ playing dog & house sitter. Looks like one of the homes in this quiet neighborhood has turned into an H1B group home.
When the owner of the house returns, I’m going to point group home & tell the owner: Look what Kevin Yoder brought to your neighborhood.
Sure, will do in a few. Refilling the vino glass.
Wind is picking up here on Cape Cod, only nor’easter of the mild winter building.
Back in a bit.
Why doe$ Lee have $uch a boner over this$ $ellout of the American peoplle$
Don’t give Turban Durbin a pass on this. He shook down Indians for campaign contributions and got em before he signed on
We need to stop this evil man and his treason this week .
The Virus has everyone distracted which is good for them .
The WH has okayed the plan .
We are screwed Folks unless we scare Trump and Mitchy enough.
Why would I give anyone a pass?
My big, top level question is, “What percentage of our government, is on balance, personally and institutionally corrupt?”
Personal corruption is a little easier to get a handle on than institutional corruption. The United States is huge and powerful, and when elephants dance, many small animals get crushed or at least inconvenienced. But someone listening to lobbyists, or specifically taking money for influence—that I can understand and detest.
Oops, filling that glass took a bit longer than I expected. I had to get a fish chowder into the instant-pot, as I’d promised the wife.
To dp0622: Your analysis of the Godfather situation is correct, as it turned out. Sonny screwed up, narcotics were a big and coming thing that couldn’t be ignored forever, but I was more interested in Vito’s initial attitude. My take was, I don’t mind if a Congressman gets a few tickets to the game and listens to some lobbyists, but I do mind if that sort of “listening” becomes his major source of employment and motivation. Then it interferes with our business.
To bobcat62: Well, you asked for it, so here’s my few paragraphs on H1B.
In my own business, which was an electrical engineering lab, we occasionally had H1B employees. However, the only reason we had them was if, when we advertised for help, they were the most qualified people who walked in the door that week. We didn’t get them on the cheap, or in quantity.
So, when my very well qualified son got a job in Houston, analyzing acoustic/geo-sound oil exploration data, I took his complaints with a grain of salt, at first. But, eventually, I came around to the view that most H1B employment was very different from what my small company had done. It was abusive, both to the H1B employees, who largely didn’t mind because it was a better deal than they had in India or China, but especially abusive to American STEM students who had recently graduated and were getting their first few years of work experience.
In my son’s H1B shop, his managers were either Indian or Chinese, as were most of the workers. They had Master’s or PhD degrees, although he didn’t think they were super-talented, just competent. Their wages were set by a policy that sounded reasonable—that they should be paid a wage that was comparable to somewhat higher than Americans, because they were supposed to fill needed spots where American talent wasn’t available.
That wage was 65K or 70K, no overtime, and hadn’t been adjusted in many years, IIRC since it was last set in 1989. So it was roughly at the entry level for a current STEM graduate.
The company he was at would work the employees 70 or more hours a week. Most of them were H1Bs, who would bunk up in a crowded apartment. The near-slavery catch was that if they kept their jobs in the US for some period... I think 4 years... they could get a Green Card, and normal wages, and they’d have that 4 years of work experience.
Now, imagine that you are a recent American graduate, with debt, or at least coming out of a dorm or a RA/TA low wage situation. You might be very capable, but you’d like to hold it down to 55 hours a week. And, your managers are going to promote their countrymen over you.
The situation just sucked. Eventually, he got fired, because the company wasn’t doing well, as the price of oil had dropped from $100 per barrel when he was hired, to $27, when he was let go, and they had to cut staff. He survived several cuts, but eventually the American had to go.
Ultimately it worked out ... it took a while, and an economic upturn, but he got a couple of much better jobs down the road. However, while he was searching, he ran into a surprising number of H1B semi-slave shops that he had to turn down.
That program has to be drastically cut back. As initially envisioned... it made sense. But it should only exist for people that aren’t readily availabe here—rare high level people who would command high wages, whether American or not. It shouldn’t be an economic advantage program for India or China at the entry level.
Just as offshoring a great deal of production hollowed out the American manufacturing economy (Japanese term), this policy is hollowing out our STEM capability. Why go through a rigorous STEM course, graduate school, and get treated like crap?
Now, I feel different about H2B visas, where somebody comes in for a summer to a resort where there just isn’t enough local help to staff the restaurants. Not the same thing.
/Rant off
Utah, please rethink your Senate choices next time.
BEST post I’ve read in a while.
There isn’t anything written to remotely set one of to ranting.
It’s by far the most compelling case I’ve read as to why it is NO GOOD as it is right now an it’s frankly DISGUSTING.
I remember being against this crap before it was hip here to be.
I caught HELL. Got called names. Really angry responses.
It seems that that group from 4 or so years ago is gone.
Or at least not showing their colors, which they should if they disagree.
Great post. Thanks for sending.
And I remember the oil crash. The war wasn’t supposed to last 26 minutes :)
I am glad your boy went on to do so well.
Thanks.
Meanwhile, India is hoarding medicines. If Lee’s bill is to pass by Unanimous Consent, only one person needs to say no. Who’s got the cojones?
My reply meant nothing personal directed at you. Most of the comments here were directed at Lee. While cosigner Durbin was playing the hesitant game making comments about jobs for Illinoians milking the system for campaign contributions. Which had a bunch of HI Indian supporters show up at his office with the “fresh”.
I am going to bring up Mumbai Mike Lie with everyone from Utah that I bump into from now on, until the guy is out of office. I would be happy to send him a one way bus ticket to Bangalore if he would promise to use it and stay there.
Hilarious!
There’s no argument here. I just didn’t know the details of Durbin’s malfeasance in this area, so I didn’t feel qualified to comment. Although in general, as he is a prominent Dem, I’m prone to believe negative things about him.
Josh Hawley seems to have a pair. He or anyone who stands up to the GOPe traitors will go a long way to securing my support for the 2024 presidential nomination.
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