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Illegal Aliens Can’t Appeal Deportation Orders to Courts, Trump Administration Tells Supreme Court....
theepochtimes ^ | 3/2/2020 | MATTHEW VADUM

Posted on 03/02/2020 7:19:09 PM PST by caww

The Trump administration told the Supreme Court that a foreigner who entered the country unlawfully and was thrice denied asylum during administrative proceedings doesn’t have the legal right to challenge an expedited removal order in the courts.

If the government loses the appeal in the case, known as Department of Homeland Security (DHS) v. Thuraissigiam, the flow of illegal aliens and would-be asylees to the United States could accelerate at a time when the Trump administration has been trying to curb the flow of such people into the country.

In ruling on the case, the Supreme Court could clarify what, if any, due process rights aliens stopped at the border possess.

In a friend-of-the-court brief, the Immigration Law Reform Institute says such detained aliens don’t possess “any rights beyond what the INA [Immigration and Nationality Act] provides.” “Congress has repeatedly said that an alien seeking admission is entitled only to the procedures Congress has provided,” Kneedler said.

When an immigration official rules that “an individual alien is excludable,” then that finding constitutes “due process, for purposes of the Constitution,” and “that expedited removal order establishes the government’s right to detain him.”

Justice Sonia Sotomayor challenged Kneedler’s explanation of the law.

“It’s one thing when an alien comes and has no protected ground to stay here. There’s no legal right to stay. And so expedited proceedings are okay because they have no right to be here. But when someone’s seeking asylum, they have a statutory right to stay if they meet the elements of the statute.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: illegalsinvasion; sotomayor; thewidelatina; trumpillegals
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1 posted on 03/02/2020 7:19:09 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

I dislike having to rely on Chief Justice Roberts, we need at least one more appointment to breathe easier.


2 posted on 03/02/2020 7:25:08 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: caww

They are not citizens.

They do not have the rights granted to us by OUR Constitution.

I would expect them to b e treated humanely as they are escorted to the nearest deportation transportation, and that’s about the extent of it.


3 posted on 03/02/2020 7:33:26 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

We are fools for giving these illegals ‘rights’ and due process, bail, etc ... other countries (incl Mexico) don’t.

You cross our border illegally, you forfeit all asylum rights, period.

Get em out!


4 posted on 03/02/2020 7:36:23 PM PST by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: metmom

Correct.

Libtard socialist courts grant them more rights and privileges than actual citizens.


5 posted on 03/02/2020 7:43:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: caww
There was a time, not so long ago...


6 posted on 03/02/2020 7:49:37 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: caww

They’re illegal! Duh! You don’t get a say.


7 posted on 03/02/2020 8:00:17 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It’s a mistake to rely on Roberts as he swings both ways....so yes we need another.


8 posted on 03/02/2020 8:17:55 PM PST by caww
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To: Cvengr

For TEXAS and Miss Lilly!


9 posted on 03/02/2020 8:18:09 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: metmom

Well it’s about who is or not an asylum seeker as opposed to a refugee I suspect. this guy was denied throughout the process then the ACLU stuck there noses in it.


10 posted on 03/02/2020 8:20:13 PM PST by caww
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To: Cvengr

You make a strong point!


11 posted on 03/02/2020 8:21:01 PM PST by caww
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To: sheehan

They describe in the article the legalities involved.....this case was in 2017 and the guy was denied from leaving whereever they have him held. So I suspect there’s more to the story.


12 posted on 03/02/2020 8:23:27 PM PST by caww
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It should be stated clearly that illegals have no rights whatsoever.
If you are here legally, you have rights by international convention.


13 posted on 03/02/2020 8:40:13 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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.....”It should be stated clearly that illegals have no rights whatsoever”......

Unfortunately it’s not, so here we are with them abusing our court systems for years...and they have entire Attorney Firms here as well, paid for by the mexican Government!


14 posted on 03/02/2020 8:45:55 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
Justice Sonia Sotomayor challenged Kneedler’s explanation of the law.

Well of course she did.

Why can the Wide Latino be given a good reason to "need to spend more time with her family"?

15 posted on 03/02/2020 8:54:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: caww

At last, someone says what has been right all along, illegal aliens have no rights but human rights. They are not citizens and therefore not possessing the rights of citizens or legal residents. Save for their illegal physical presence it is as if they are not here. They are non-persons.


16 posted on 03/02/2020 8:56:42 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Same for Roberts.


17 posted on 03/02/2020 8:57:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
WHO ENTER US ILLEGALLY GRANT THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN WE ENTER THEIRS LEGALLY TO VISIT OR RETIRE ???
The issue of sovereignty should not be allowed to get twisted into being propagandized as “White Nationalism”. Use of that term is usually directed when the immigration issue is brought up to devalue of the protections an American citizen have by being one. When allowing the hordes illegally entering the US through the Mexican border avoid enforcing the reciprocal 2nd class treatment that American citizens get while legally residing in Mexico which of course also includes denial of voting privileges..

Today’s so called democrats insist Americans must allow illegals storm in here by the hundreds of thousands despite their cost to us of billion$ in tax dollars,which is never enough. Tax money that should be going to our citizens for their sustenance,health,education,and housing even infrastructure needs. But Americans must do the tax flagellating punishment because we’re the very rich United States and must divert those billion$ to fill the needs of those poor illegals plus give them the right to vote. Sustained by our tax money which our children’s children if not aborted will be paying for.?

Besides flooding the labor market with cheap labor which reduces job opportunities for American citizens in a diminishing base. Highly infectious communicable diseases are also pouring through this uncontrolled border creating serious health problems.

This destructive utopian Mexican open border approach of even considering granting those who enter the US illegally through it. Entitlement to all benefits way beyond those of what Mexicans give to our citizens in Mexico destroys the value of an American citizenship. It is being promoted by the name callers in socialist circles known as the democrat party as well some republicans who use such terms as “nativist” promoting racial division .

What we should be doing is taking a very very hard look at our relationship with Mexico along with trade and its myriad miss treatment of Americans as 3rd class citizens and its claims on American territory . There is no doubt there are hundreds of complaints, if not thousands, from American citizens who have retired there. Along with travelers running to American consulates about conditions that are going unreported because of this Mexican policy

Why are we expected to allow Mexican citizens enter to our country illegally and offer them preferential treatment over our citizens allowing them to purchase land in their own name and voting privileges when an American cannot do either if they choose to retire in Mexico ?


18 posted on 03/02/2020 10:42:11 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: caww
At least this time the article was nice enough to mention the case name. Those who might be interested in reading the arguments for themselves, can find them here.
19 posted on 03/03/2020 6:49:13 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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As usual, the Spanish Supremacist who does not belong on our court argues for her people, not the Americans.

Law isn’t what she does. Militant Hispanicism is her gig.


20 posted on 03/03/2020 7:11:51 AM PST by Regulator
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