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How Does the Coronavirus Compare to the Flu?
NY SLimes ^ | 2/29/20 | Denise Grady

Posted on 02/29/2020 7:07:45 PM PST by NoLibZone

As new cases appear on the West Coast, some — including the president — see comparisons to the seasonal flu. Here’s a close look at the differences.

Which virus is deadlier?

The coronavirus seems to be more deadly than the flu — so far.

On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu killed tens of millions of people.

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Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.

The coronavirus death rate may be even lower, if — as most experts suspect — there are many mild or symptom-free cases that have not been detected.

The true death rate could turn out to be similar to that of a severe seasonal flu, below 1 percent, according to an editorial published in the journal by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and Dr. H. Clifford Lane, of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cornoavirus; covid19; doomsdayers; governmenthealthcare; sarscov2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Cov-19. Only the latest and greatest in a time tested and rich insurance policy against space alien invasion and occupation.

Democrat and media signal intercepts have any sensible aliens avoiding our galaxy completely. If the bad orange man doesn't kill you, his diseases will.

21 posted on 02/29/2020 7:32:28 PM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: NoLibZone

If you divide the number of deaths so far by the number of cases you get 3.4 percent.

Some twenty percent of those known cases are in serious or critical condition and many will die later and raise the death toll.

Conversely, plenty of people who have a mild infection do not go to hospitals and are not counted in the total so the true percentage could be a lot lower.

Time will tell.


22 posted on 02/29/2020 7:32:33 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Vince Ferrer

densely populated

No kidding!

Wuhan makes NYC look like wide open Montana.

People here have no idea what it’s like being inches from people all day long.


23 posted on 02/29/2020 7:33:22 PM PST by NoLibZone (I'm in Customer Service. I totally get why God wipes out humanity every once in a while.)
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To: NoLibZone

To take the authority on this from the NY Slime is laughable. Have we learned nothing since Duranty? “All the news that fits” should be their motto, or better yet, “never let the truth get in the way of our agenda,”


24 posted on 02/29/2020 7:38:22 PM PST by Fungi
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To: NoLibZone

People here should go to a train station in China, it’s like a human river. I’ve experienced that level of density in Germany too at festivals, but China is like that daily.

Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Liuzhou, Nanning, Xiamen, Beijing. All the same for me, just different accents and foods.


25 posted on 02/29/2020 7:40:17 PM PST by datura
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To: NoLibZone

Current mortality rates are skewed high because most tests are on severe cases, while mild or asymptomatic cases haven’t been tested. Time will tell.


26 posted on 02/29/2020 7:46:53 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: Pearls Before Swine


But, if that's all it really is, it makes me wonder why the Chinese reacted so dramatically.

maybe because they wanted to contain a deadly virus, like, I don't know, the flu?

why the incinerators in Wuhan are running flat out.

proof?

The Chinese aren't prone to public health hysteria, IMHO.

Pearls Before Swine is prone to hysteria, IMHO.


27 posted on 02/29/2020 7:47:29 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: NoLibZone
1.4% is still a lot worse than the flu. But I welcome a lower rate. Given that the data is coming from China, I'm taking it with a salt mine of salt.

After the first year or two and a portion of us have immunity, then I'd expect the rate to drop and it might end up being not much worse than the flu. But the issue is THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR it's new to all of us. None of us have immunity unless maybe a coronavirus cold gave us some.

Things that convince me it's worse than the flu.


28 posted on 02/29/2020 7:50:23 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: silverleaf

“Well, for one thing, the flu was not bioengineered as a chimeric killing weapon using strands of several horrible viruses”

it’s a good thing that something like that hasn’t hit us yet, or it would easily kill the bulk of the world population in a matter of weeks ...


29 posted on 02/29/2020 7:51:40 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 867V309

The riots in Hong Kong have been swept away.


30 posted on 02/29/2020 7:52:01 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: MNJohnnie

“The other thing that needs a study. China has the worst air quality in the world. How many infected with Coronavirus have existing respiratory problems that Conronavirus is aggravating.”

probably all of them, particularly the ones who succumbed ...

i traveled throughout the PRC in the early 80’s on business, and the air quality resulting from unfiltered coal burning, untuned vehicles, ungodly amounts of cigarette smoking, and massive amounts of fine dust blowing towards the eastern cities in the autumn from the Gobi desert pretty much induced lung problems in the entire population.

it was so bad, that it was against the law to spit on the sidewalks because practically everyone had chronic lung issues and were constantly hacking up the nastiest stuff, even relatively healthy younger people in the prime of their lives ... it really was tragic, but just part of the price the communist government was willing to pay to quickly industrialize, namely sacrifice their people because basically they didn’t give a damn about them ...


31 posted on 02/29/2020 7:55:03 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NoLibZone

Ebola is deadlier than the flu too but I would be more concerned with dying from the flu since there is more chance of getting it.


32 posted on 02/29/2020 7:55:25 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Ken H; NoLibZone

“What are you trying to do, spread calm and reasonableness?”

i thought that had been banned ...


33 posted on 02/29/2020 7:56:02 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Captain Compassion

Protests in Hong Kong, first phase of trade deal change with US which China hated and now will have to be delayed, call me a conspiracy theorist I don’t care!!!


34 posted on 02/29/2020 7:56:17 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: NoLibZone

Ebola is deadlier than the flu too but I would be more concerned with dying from the flu since there is more chance of getting it.


35 posted on 02/29/2020 7:57:36 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: gundog

Last year only about 4 percent more people got flu vaccine than didn’t. What percentage of unvaccinated died compared to vaccinated? Serious question, not trying to start anything between those that vaccinate and those that dont.


36 posted on 02/29/2020 8:00:13 PM PST by muggs
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To: Pearls Before Swine

They have to burn medical waste and maybe even human waste.


37 posted on 02/29/2020 8:03:44 PM PST by muggs
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To: Pearls Before Swine

They have to burn medical waste and maybe even human waste.


38 posted on 02/29/2020 8:04:38 PM PST by muggs
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To: muggs
I used to foo-foo people who got a flu shot like it was the only thing on their mind. Then I got the flu.

Now I get the flu shot every year like it's the only thing on my mind.

Like hitting a mule between the eyes with a 2 X 4. And I was the mule.

39 posted on 02/29/2020 8:05:23 PM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: Captain Compassion


The riots in Hong Kong have been swept away.

right.

and the contagion in iran has unknown consequences.     Qom, ground zero for iranian coronavirus, is the largest center for shia scholarship in the world, and is a significant destination of pilgrimage, with around twenty million pilgrims visiting the city every year.

so qom provides the virus with a vector into many moslem refugee enclaves throughout the mideast, each one being a perfect incubator: high population density, poor hygiene, substandard healthcare, ignorant population.


40 posted on 02/29/2020 8:12:30 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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