Yup. Don’t see either happening, ever. Ashland’s about as liberal as any place in the State, due to the college.
Does the thing have any traction in Coos? I was talking to a buddy from Greenacres the other night and he gave me a discouraging report on the state of things. He said that the Californias who get burned out have been taking their insurance cheques and using them to drive up housing prices in Oregon.