Posted on 02/19/2020 2:06:06 PM PST by jazusamo
A study by researchers at the Yale School of Public Health shows that contrary to just about every other study published on the subject of Medicare for All, the program would actually save $450 billion a year and 68,000 lives.
Now really, who could ever vote against that? Will this study elect Bernie Sanders president?
How did they come to those conclusions? Smoke and mirrors, of course.
Previous estimates of the cost of Medicare for All have reached significantly different conclusions, ranging from a roughly 16% increase over current national health-care spending levels to a 27% decrease. This latest study relies on a new analytical tool to measure the impact of different provisions within Medicare for All as applied to real-world data (you can review and adjust the parameters of the analysis in the Single-Payer Healthcare Interactive Financing Tool).
A "new analytical tool"? "Real-world data"? Sounds impressive. Sounds like they actually know what they're talking about. Is M4A the Holy Grail we've been praying for?
Not exactly. One of the most widely quoted studies on the true costs of M4A tells quite a different story.
The leading current bill to establish single-payer health insurance, the Medicare for All Act (M4A), would, under conservative estimates, increase federal budget commitments by approximately $32.6 trillion...
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
The fact that passing Obamacare eliminated several hundred thousand hospital beds and several hundred thousand nursing staff will never be mentioned by a single news outlet or "Blue Ribbon Panel" looking at why the response is insufficient.
That makes sense. We all know that government provides better services than private enterprise and does so more cheaply. Just look at the prompt service from the Department of Motor Vehicles, and the quality of IRS care.
Anyone with experiential knowledge of medicare billing knows this isn’t true. People who pay zero use the most significant amount of and icredibly expensive type of healthcare.
I just completed a “study”. That study finds that the reported study is “absolute BS”.
By killing those over 65
“...”EDU-Care”, a reduced college Education cost program...”
Great idea Uncle! Universal Edu-care as higher education is a right. All universities will be required to reduce tuition and fees in 5 years to reach 25% of the poverty level of a family of four (currently $26200) of $6550/yr or $17.95 per day which is approximately 2.5 hours of working at the federal minimum wage. This will allow the end of the student loan program saving people trillions of dollars, and allow people to work and study without worrying about their next meal or eating dog food. Think of the savings; I am sure the professorial class would love to have full classrooms and work for reduced wages so that others may pursue their dreams. After all, they got where they are on the shoulders of others.
There should be criminal penalties for lying in studies designed to promote a political agenda. Put these propagandists pretending to be researchers into hard labor.
Israel has universal health care. Why would it be so bad for the US?
I used to be onboard with the free market health care rhetoric. But too many bad experiences with insurance companies have made me less ideological
For starters, Israel has a smaller, homogeneous (through religions,) demographic. It does not have open borders with thousands of new health care clients pouring into its country daily. Israel has a geography much more condensed than the U.S., resulting in more health care facilities per capita than the U.S. Lastly, and totally beyond my desire to research, I suspect that very serious health concerns of wealthy Israeli patients are addressed in the U.S.
So you dont deny that universal health care can work - as Ive been told it works in Israel. You simply offer seat of the pants speculation on why it couldnt work here based on different population factors, and size. Im not persuaded that a program couldnt be tailored to account for most of those differences
But at least youre recognizing that health can be delivered in a satisfactory way through a system where private insurance companies are allowed to siphon off a huge percentage of payments for overhead and profits. Ive heard good things about Israels universal coverage plan; also Australias and Germanys. Ive heard it from people whove lived there and people who visited. One common observation: nobody goes broke from healthcare costs. Cant be said about US
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