Posted on 02/17/2020 3:43:21 AM PST by Kaslin
While hes right, I wish hed leave the rats to eat their own on this.
Yup.
That should be the single most important consideration here.
We went through the same thing with Rudy Giuliani when he launched his comical bid for the White House in 2008. His similar claim to fame was NYCs initiative to seize vehicles from drivers in DUI cases before the defendants had gone to trial.
We need to use their Alinsky tactics against them:
4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
So, continue to point out their own hypocrisy, even on the occasions that they accidentally did the right thing.
Until our side learns to play by the rules of the DEMOCRATS, we will never be able to crush the Left.
In this case, I could less whether Bloomberg’s stop-and-frisk was a good idea or not (it certainly worked), what should matter to us, ONLY, is that the black community HATED the policy, and that gives us leverage (huge leverage) to weaken Bloomberg.
After Bloomberg is no longer a political threat to the country, then I have no issue in defending him or his policies. That’s how the Dems do it - when Bush Sr. died, they had nothing but great words for him. When he was in office, though, THEY DESPISED HIM, as much as they despise Trump, and they nearly drove Bush Sr. out of office over Iran-Contra.
The ‘moral high ground’ nearly cost us the country...we can, and should, go back to that, but only after DEFEATING the Democrats once and for all...and we are not there yet.
This is Bloombergs weak point. Trumps instinct is to go for the kill.
Agree. If they are going to use Alinsky rules we must also. If Trump can use Mikes Stop and Frisk against him do it. First you have to win.
Just because a policy is effective in reducing crime doesnt mean its right. And more importantly doesnt mean its constitutional. Imagine how much more crime could be reduced with warrantless searches.
Two more facts:
The sharp drop off in crime in New York was the work of Bill Bratton who Giuliani installed as police chief and who basically invented modern data driven policing. Yes he also used stop and frisk but it was one of many policies he implemented and the crime rate kept falling after stop and frisk was ended.
On top of that even if stop and frisk was good policy speaking in such a dismissive manner of the people negatively impacted by policies that restrict our freedom is the province of nanny state totalitarians like Bloomberg.
We’re not criticizing MiniMike on Stop and Frisk.
We’re criticizing him on disavowing it in order to pander to ‘Rat voters.
Rules? What rules do the Progressives abide by?
There is no prize for 2nd place. You beat the heck out of them with everything you can.
It’s not about the facts, it’s about the perception and Trump understands this. I wish more people on our side understood that.
“Rules? What rules do the Progressives abide by?”
Rule #1 for the Democrats is DEMONIZE Republicans at every opportunity, even when it means flipping on issues on a near-daily basis.
They do have rules...but not constraints.
I read that, what was it, 5 years of aggressive “stop & frisk” saved 1600+ black lives. The “law-abiding community” in the black neighborhoods were for it. Mamas, too.
I want to add that it’s no excuse for police crime. (Am I contradicting myself?) It has to be a measured policy, not arbitrary and unlimited -— and the community has to see that.
This, and anything else that will rile the rat base needs to be brought out front! Let the chips fall...
BINGO!! Playing moral to half the country who is amoral is a losing position!
The right does not criticize Bloomberg for his former policy, but for his present cowardly hypocrisy.
Whoa there Mr. Morefield, pump the straw man brakes.
Nobody is criticizing the policy. They are criticizing Big Gulps insincere disavowal of it in a pathetic attempt at pandering. Anytime a tape or video arises of this former Fakepublicam vehemently defending it, you betcha we are going to hop on it. We are especially going to do that when he makes statements that, if made by a GOP candidate, would lead to screams of white nationalist.
Oh no, just cause Big Gulp changes jerseys does not mean he gets a pass. And if they left wont beat him over the head with the tool they always misuse on us, then we will.
He’s running for a party that does not believe in it, and now he’s trying to pander.
Not our damn jobs to come to his aid.
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