Posted on 02/15/2020 9:11:29 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
“Disinfecting the currency? What does this tell us? That disease lives a long time on the surface of things.”
Yup... That includes all the products they send us.
[[The “build immunity” thing requires you to GET the thing, and your body builds anti-bodies.]]
Exactly- not sure why you’re calling it a ‘silly myth’ and then explain how it works?
[[And remember, most symptoms are actually caused by your immune system. Fever, runny nose, all that is just your body fighting it out.]]
Yup- noone’s disputing any of that- but symptoms aren’t what builds the immunity- being exposed to something is what does-
[[requires you to GET the thing]]
Yup=- so what’s your argument? If someone gets a flu say, and get over it, they can’t get the same strain again- so they become in a sense immune to it- if we didn’t, we’d keep getting the same flu over and over as it wouldn’t burn itself out due to built up immunity in the community-
There’s no ‘myth’ to building immunity- There is way more to it than that- kids raised in sterile enviros are sickly when they get into the real world- and because their immune systems are not strong, they are more susceptible to the harsher effects of viruses and bacterias- the under-challenged immune systems begin attacking healthy tissues- causing a range of autoimmune conditions- rats who grew up in sterile enviros are not able to catch up to those who grew up in non sterile enviros
“These studies show the critical importance of proper immune conditioning during the earliest periods of life.” said Richard
Blumberg, MD, chief for the BWH Division of Gastroenterology, Hepatology and Endoscopy.
“The Hygiene Hypothesis theorizes that a lack of early childhood exposure to germs can lead to development of asthma, allergies & autoimmune disorders. Countless studies, including a string of studies performed by the researchers at Immune Tolerance Network, have proved this theory to be true.”
“It’s called the hygiene hypothesis,” says Marc McMorris, M.D., a
pediatruc allergist at the University of Michigan Health System. “We’ve developed a cleaner lifestyle, and our bodies no longer need to fight germs as much as they did in the past. As a result, the immune system has shifted away from fighting infection to developing more allergic tendencies.”
My argument is is with the idea that the play in dirt kids have better immunity than the others. They don’t. It’s just not how it works. Kids get sick as the get sick. And frankly the play in dirt kids have runny noses all the time. The only real difference between the 2 is whether or not their parents worry about them being sick.
And, kids that develop autoimmune problems because they grew up in sterile enviros, are more sickly to begin with and in more danger to flues and things like coronoviruses- whereas kids with stronger immune systems thanks to non sterile enviros have stronger immune systems without autoimmune conditions weakening them, to fight off things like flu and viruses
Being exposed to bacteria and viruses and such as a young person helps develop a strong robust immune system that helps to keep kids from developing autoimmune diseases and conditions which can greatly decrease their chances of surviving flues and viruses if they should get these autoimmune conditions
What about the little number buttons everyone has to punch their code into at stores? Which is dirtier, cash or hundreds of people touching those filthy buttons every day in stores everywhere?
Panic reaction? Or we have tried everything else so grasping at straws cause they can’t control the crap?
Except there’s no evidence at all that clean living conditions cause autoimmune problems. Again BUNK!
[p[My argument is is with the idea that the play in dirt kids have better immunity than the others. They don’t.]]
please read through my above post and link- that simply is not true- my last post without the link lays out why- If you’;ll read the link- there is scientific evidence proving that kids that play in the dirt are much healthier than kids that don’t- runny noses doesn’t mean one is sick- developing and having autoimmune diseases though does- kids with the runny noses are developing immunity to things like hay fever- and as mentioned in my last post- when they develop strong immunities as kids, as adults with strong immune systems, they are much more apt to survive flues than sickly adults are- and adults with autoimmune problems usually have them permanently because they didn’t develop resistance to them as a child while their immune systems were developing and at their strongest-
[[Except there’s no evidence at all that clean living conditions cause autoimmune problems. Again BUNK!]]
Wow- yes there is-
If you theory was correct things like corono and SARS would ride roughshod through “clean” countries like America and be unable to effect “dirty” countries like China. Out here in reality China gets eaten alive by them, and we don’t.
They disinfect it and wait 14 days. That says their UV method is not 100 % kill.
Wouldn’t irradiating items, cash, mail etc etc have the same disinfecting effect as irradiating food does ?
And just think about how many times that currency changes hands before it ends up back at the bank.
Best checkouts to use now are self checkouts where you can swipe and run. No interaction. No button pressing. Only you touch items after taken off shelf.
it’s not my theory, it’s science- second, it is running roughshod over china and not here because of our advanced hospital technologies and the fact that we are containing it much better- for now- The virus here is nowhere near as widespread as well- Chinese hospitals on the other hand are full to capacity with victims, some lying in hallways waiting to be treated- and patients in the hospital that didn’t have the virus are now exposed to the myriad of infected virus victims- so it;’s taking off like wildfire- it will here too if it gets that widespread-
[[Out here in reality ]]
No need to get nasty-
“Please do tell us, what reason is China now disinfecting their bank notes for.”
One possibility is that they have no idea of the scope of the problem or what to do and they are just thrashing around under a mandate to “do something.” Quarantines. Disinfectant trucks. Drones making announcments. Disinfecting money. etc.
Don’t assume there’s an all-knowing group making rational decisions based on their knowledge. If you make decisions using that assumption, you are likely to be wrong.
i had heard out west they were using UV to disinfect hospital rooms with a portable machine (quite expensive i guess), and supposedly it only took a very short while to do so— this was awhile ago though- haven’t heard anything recently- supposedly it cuts way down on things like staff infection-
No, it’s a theory that runs around and pretends to be science, but it has no backing among anybody that actually bothers to understand. It’s not running wild here because we have a cleaner environment, things get cleaned, bugs get killed. Less people getting exposed, less people getting sick, less over work on hospitals. At one point it wasn’t widespread in China either. But their reality isn’t as sterilized, more people got exposed, more people get sick, hospitals got filled to capacity.
Nothing nasty about what I said. I was comparing the world of your theory with reality. And showing why they are 2 vastly different things. The “eat dirt” theory is quite simply, as I’ve told you repeated, BUNK. if you find that nasty, stop espousing theories that are... well bunk. It’s very simple.
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