Posted on 02/15/2020 5:08:36 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
SHANGHAI/PARIS - An elderly Chinese tourist infected with the coronavirus has died in France, Paris said on Saturday, becoming the first fatality in Europe and the fourth outside mainland China from an epidemic that has rattled the world.
Thought to have originated from a wildlife market in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the outbreak has dented the world’s second largest economy and presented a huge challenge to the ruling Communist Party.
In the French case, the 80-year-old Chinese man died at the Bichat hospital in Paris of a lung infection due to the flu-like virus, Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said.
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How many folks not from Asian countries have died?
Rest of the 300-word excerpt:
Those returning to Beijing from the holiday have been ordered to undergo a 14-day self-quarantine
While there has been some hope expressed this week, numbers keep rising and a trend has been hard to discern, especially after a reclassification that widened the definition of cases.
The biggest cluster of cases outside China has been on a cruise ship, the Diamond Princess, quarantined off Japan’s Yokohama port. Out of about 3,700 passengers and crew on board, 285 people have tested positive and been taken to hospitals.
In Chinese-ruled Hong Kong, which has seen months of anti-Beijing protests, hundreds of demonstrators marched on Saturday to demand full closure of the border with mainland China and to oppose plans to turn some buildings into quarantine hubs.
“Doing that (opening such centers) is like creating more wounds rather than trying to stop the bleeding,” said Chan Mei-lin among the protesters. TV images showed police making some arrests and using pepper spray. ]
Not too many, if any. There were numerous Germans (9 ??) that were infected by the Chinese gal - but AFAIK they are all still alive.
Well I feel very bad for the Chinese folks...but glad so far it’s not been so bad for others.
Actually they are living a nightmare.
Someone last night posted a link to a video of a Chinese cop or whatever he was clubbing a dog dozens of times and it was LONG and HORRIBLE and DID NOT belong on FR and was removed.
I don’t get disturbed that easily. It was very disturbing.
Plus dogs don’t even carry the disease.
And if for some insane reason it WAS necessary, use something very HARD and kill the poor creature with 2 blows, not 20 and he’s still alive but in agony looking at you and wondering what the hell he did to deserve it
Sorry.
I’m far from a PETA activist but it was messed up to watch.
I would love to see the demographics of those that passed. Age, pre-existing heath conditions,etc. It would give a better idea of the risk involved from the virus.
Yeah man with that information coming from behind the big red curtain, we can’t glean any insights really.
Put another way, how many Caucasians or blacks have died? Near as I can tell, so far all the deaths so far have been East Asian ethnicity, including the American ( Chinese-American) who died in China.
Could there be some genetic factor?
Is that the correct terminology for a bio-weapons lab now?
This thing seems to be deadlier to Chinese people. I suspect it is due to the extremely polluted air in the cities and to atrocious hygiene among Han Chinese both of which weaken immune systems.
That was my thought too. If true it should help find a cure.
Someone pointed out two weeks ago that Chinese society is heavily into smoking (particularly guys). That may have something to do with the virus. But they also pointed out that Chinese are not exactly the society who shows up at the hospital until all of their home remedies have been used and proven unhelpful. It may be that the bulk of these folks showed up in the last day or two of their life at the hospital, and nothing much could be done.
There's been a lot of speculation, including that the virus wouldn’t be as much a problem in nations with better health care systems and facilities. At this point, we just don't know. This 80 year-old man was obviously infected in China, but was treated in Europe (France). That suggests it's not just the quality of the health care facilities - but the characteristics of this virus that are leading to the deaths.
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.
That's the good news, the bad news is that they may simply have not been sick long enough to die. Time will tell.
Yes. Chinese have more off a receptor (ACE-2?) in their lungs than other peoples. 2019-nCoV attaches to that receptor.
Not to mention that China’s air quality is horrid. Smoking plus awful air (Counts as a double dose, or more?) makes respiratory illness worse. Add to that a general unwillingness to go to hospitals, poor sanitation, and high crowding and honestly, it’s a surprise this hasn’t happened sooner. However, all that may be why all of the recent “Super bugs” have been in China, and not really spread out.
All that said, the irony would be intense if China WAS working on a bio-weapon to target certain genetic markers, and accidentally targeted themselves.
I wouldn't doubt that there are genetic and cultural factors.
Whatever the reasons there hasn’t been much good news so far about all this.
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