Posted on 02/11/2020 6:16:15 PM PST by bkopto
A U.S. District Court judge ordered the Navy to start releasing unclassified documents related to the sinking of USS Thresher (SSN-593), 57 years after 129 officers, sailors and shipbuilders died in the nation’s worst nuclear submarine disaster.
Retired Navy Capt. James Bryant, a former Thresher-class submarine commander, sued the Navy in July to force the release of unclassified investigation documents detailing Thresher‘s operation during its final dive. The Navy previously rebuffed Bryant’s request for records under the Freedom of Information Act.
During a Monday court hearing, Judge Trevor McFadden ordered the Navy to start releasing the requested material. Bryant, while pleased with McFadden’s ruling, shelved his excitement until he sees what the Navy starts releasing and whether the documents are heavily redacted.
In his retirement, Bryant has taken to investigating the cause of Thresher’s sinking because, even six decades later, he thinks there are valuable lessons to be learned. Thresher never resurfaced after conducting a test dive on the morning of April 10, 1963. Mechanical failures or even Soviet interferences have been cited as possible reasons for the sinking.
However, the Navy has kept a close hold on roughly 3,600 Thresher-related documents while saying a classification review occurs. The requested documents – more than 50 years old – should be unclassified and releasable by now under federal declassification rules, Bryant’s attorney, Robert Eatinger, said during Monday’s hearing.
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The families of the Scorpion’s crew were at the pier in Charleston waiting on her to dock. It never came in. The families went home and the Navy started looking. It’s off the Azores Islands. They found it and came up with a battery well explosion story. The pictures look like a blowing in not a blowing out. My 2 cents worth. Sometimes you play too rough.
The Thresher was before Subsafe and Level One Quality control programs. Admiral Rickover changed a lot of those issues. I had a Chief for a trainer in a school in New London who left the boat just before it left the yards in Maine. He was pretty wrecked over it’s loss. He new most of the crew.
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Ping
This disaster tormented me as a child. I am glad more information will be released.
I believe even a Carrier is referred to as a ‘boat’, though it is also classified as a ship.
IC3(ss) - SSBN 658 (Blue)
I have a source which I trust that has told me it was sunk by a Russian sub, but since it took out the sub that killed it, everyone thought it best to just leave the matter be.
NOT the Thresher and/or Scorpion.
Still ‘haze gray and underway’
RIP
NOT in ‘my Navy’...
A boat is something carried by a SHIP...
Subs don’t or didn’t count, they were considered boats.
Guess it is a ‘Navy thing’...
Like the word SECURE...
In the Marines secure a building means blow it up.
In the Army it means surround it and get it under control.
In the Navy it means make sure all the doors are locked and lights turned off.
In the Air Force, it means take out another 20 year lease.
All in who one is talking to....
Recommended read for all NAVY and seagoing types, especially Submariners...
‘Running Critical’ The Silent War: Rickover and General Dynamics’.
Patrick Tyler..... 1986
https://www.amazon.com/Running-Critical-Rickover-General-Dynamics/dp/0060153776
I read it way back when and couldn’t put it down.
The more I read, the more ‘whizzed’ I got.
Makes good example of the term
“Remember, the low bidder built it”
One of the glaring things was a female inspector found bolts not welded in the forward hull and when shut down the builder ended up suing the Navy for their screw up as the Navy insured it and had complete inspection so the builder contended it was the Navy’s fault that their people screwed up...
Talk about some Schiff
Why do they want to keep secret something that happened 50 years ago?????
I’m around a lot of Navy personnel. They all call a carrier a boat or the boat.
Bump for later
>>We use ship and boat interchangeably. Tradition calls it a boat, but a nuclear powered warship that can take out a fleet or a small nation without missing a hot meal is definitely worthy of being called a ship.<<
Fair enough! :)
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