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Why Bloomberg’s 2015 ‘Stop and Frisk’ remarks are riddled with inaccuracies
Fox News ^ | February 11, 2020 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 02/11/2020 11:54:41 AM PST by rogerantone1

With President Donald Trump threatening to make real inroads into the black vote, will Democrats dare to nominate a candidate who has made racially biased statements? It is one thing to say that minorities commit crime at relatively high rates compared to whites, but it is something quite different to falsely claim that minorities commit virtually all murders.

For a candidate who has already spent an astounding $350 million on his campaign -- more than all of his opponents combined -- it might be hard for his political opponents to get a word in edgewise. But, even as polls are showing that former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has the second-highest support among black Democrats, his past racial bias could still get him in trouble. 24 percent of Democratic primary voters are black.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; cprc; race; read; readthearticle
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1 posted on 02/11/2020 11:54:41 AM PST by rogerantone1
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If you don’t think they commit most all the murders and violent crime, check the stats in the article as they pertain to NYC. Between black and hispanics, 75-85% and higher of all serious felonies are committed. I am not voting for Bloomberg ever but his comments were right on target. Hiding our heads in the PC sands only makes the situation worse.


2 posted on 02/11/2020 11:58:08 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: rogerantone1

If you have a bit of time check out the stats from NYC crime reports for up to last year, here they are, exactly what Bloomberg was saying, until he decided to run for President:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year_end_2015_enforcement_report.pdf


3 posted on 02/11/2020 12:02:14 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: rogerantone1

“You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed.” - Michael Bloomberg 2015 speech to the Aspen Institute


4 posted on 02/11/2020 12:05:31 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: rogerantone1
made racially biased statements

The ones I've seen quoted, I would describe as racially accurate statements.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 02/11/2020 12:05:43 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: rogerantone1

Regardless of how one views the crime statistics,
regardless...

remarks by any D candidate associating blacks by race... with crime...

is gonna pretty much doom that candidate in the party, period

(and I don’t think that the D voters would have ever accepted Bloomberg and his gross arrogance, anyway, but that’s another issue)


6 posted on 02/11/2020 12:12:09 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: rogerantone1

This is what PC is. Hiding the truth and pretending. It’s dangerous.


7 posted on 02/11/2020 12:12:59 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Midwesterner53

I wonder why Lott cited statistics for the US as a whole when Bloomberg was probably only discussing NYC.


8 posted on 02/11/2020 12:14:46 PM PST by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: AJFavish

The best way to look at the crime rates is to imagine the crime rates without any black crime.

Then look at the statistics without any black or hispanic crime.

Then the stats will look a lot like pre-Islamic Sweden or Norway.

But—Bloomberg is not going to be honest and deliver the bad news in front of a bad audience.

He will do what all slimy politicians do—evade, lie, deny, evade, lie, deny.

(My small town has mostly folks of Norwegian ancestry—they won’t even run through a stop sign. ;-) )


9 posted on 02/11/2020 12:22:46 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: rogerantone1

I think the fact check here is probably correct but the kinds of murders that can be prevented with more police on the street are more in minority neighborhoods. I don’t have the stats but I believe most white on white murders are people known to each other (family/significant others) vs random street crime.


10 posted on 02/11/2020 12:31:01 PM PST by gunnut
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To: Midwesterner53

“Between black and hispanics, 75-85% and higher of all serious felonies are committed.”

Democrat response: the laws are inherently racist and must be modified or removed, or reporting on crime is inherently racist and we must stop documenting the race of the offender.


11 posted on 02/11/2020 12:40:32 PM PST by Yogafist
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So very close to that, they have removed cash bail which kept violent offenders in jail so now there is virtually no penalty for serious crime in NY until several years later when the trial comes along, if they bother to show up at all.


12 posted on 02/11/2020 12:47:11 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: rogerantone1

He was at the Aspen Institute to DEFEND “stop and frisk” policies, which are almost universally considered “racist” by the Democrat base. Of course, he will claim he has been reborn, sees the light, evolved, etc.

How is this any different from all the Democrats calling for immigration and border control prior to Trump? None of them were held to their words.


13 posted on 02/11/2020 12:47:19 PM PST by ETCM
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Heck yeah, he was right but you can’t say that. He even went so far as to say whites were stopped too often. The Clintons can get away with having said similiar to the race baiting base of the democrat party. Not even Bloomberg has enough cash to buy those remarks back. The only thing Bloomberg can do is try to deflect by saying Trump was hard on crime too, if he can get the nomination, that is.


14 posted on 02/11/2020 1:08:02 PM PST by hardspunned
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According to the FBI data, among murderers whose race we knew, almost 44 percent of murderers were white... We don’t know the race of all murderers, but even if one assumes that all murderers whose race isn’t identified are minorities, about 31 percent of murderers were white.

All true - Lott doesn't make many mistakes. But as far as racial violence is concerned a person has to realize that black people are about 14% of the population and that most murderers of any race are men. That creates a situation where 7% of the population (black men) commit 31% of crimes.

15 posted on 02/11/2020 1:11:10 PM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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Read the 31% wrong... cancel my last comment...


16 posted on 02/11/2020 1:12:53 PM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: rogerantone1

Faux News tries to rescue Bloomberg.


17 posted on 02/11/2020 1:27:28 PM PST by Zathras
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(My small town has mostly folks of Norwegian ancestry—they won’t even run through a stop sign. ;-) )

LOL! I live in "Alaska's Little Norway" where the most serious crime seems to be 'Improper storage of crab pots' judging from the local weekly's Police Beat column.

18 posted on 02/11/2020 1:58:08 PM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: rogerantone1

Without Biden, Bloomberg is the rats only hope for the African-American vote.


19 posted on 02/11/2020 2:06:20 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Zathras

FNC reported that Trump tweeted that Bloomberg is a racist, then deleted the tweet because he’s on record supporting Bloomberg’s crime policies.


20 posted on 02/11/2020 2:45:46 PM PST by nbenyo
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