Posted on 02/10/2020 2:11:28 PM PST by janetjanet998
There are currently 42,729 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1013 fatalities.
ITTA.
SARS also loved airconditioning. Cool and dry is best for these viruses.
Or the No Go Zones of Europe
Darn it
That would be lilfarmer
Yep, still flat as of 15:03
“According to a press release, the City of San Antonio says it is actively monitoring Bexar County residents that have traveled back from China.
The residents are conducting 14-day self-quarantines at their own homes...
The San Antonio Metro Health Lab has also received its CDC-issued novel coronavirus test kits, which will take two weeks to be fully operational and will require an additional confirmation from the CDC...
The CDC believes the virus may appear between two to 14 days after exposure.”
Huh? The lab won’t be ready for another 2 weeks or the tests won’t be ready for 2 weeks? Either way, hardly effective for those today.
The epidemic broke out in China, the city of Wuhan in the province of Hubei, to be specific. Since we are just in the 1st inning, so to speak, the deaths are mostly there, as other areas have not yet accrued so many people infected, for as long.
Travel and other restrictions appear to be slowing the spread to other regions and eventually other countries. How effective that will be in the long run, and the long run may be years, we shall see.
Health care in Wuhan under normal circumstances is almost surely better than average for China, but they have nowhere near the number of hospital beds and ICU’s per thousand people that we do, for example. Even so, if this virus really gets loose in the US, we could have severe problems with capacity to treat seriously and critically ill patients (for all causes, esp. those involving respiratory problems.)
Smoking and pollution are definitely contributing factors, and it appears the virus is somewhat geared to Asians.
Wait till it hits the slums of SanFransisco.!
Chat with acquaintance in HK.1. If you don't keep your shoes outside of your house or scrupulously manage them just inside your door and handle them as if you were removing a diseased kidney from an AIDS patient, including immediately scrubbing your hands, forget about the masks, etc. Streets are always filthy, and now they are contagious.
2. 27 Chinese cities are under quarantine, including three major coastal cities. This is a catastrophe. 3. Economic activity has been essentially zeroed out. He has knowledge of a large liquor/food distribution company. Revenues of that company have fallen to zero. Not down, zero. No one is eating in restaurants or bars. Other consumer businesses are likewise in free fall. And no business, not even Microsoft or Apple, can survive for more than a month or two with zero revenues. Zero, not down, zero. Entire factory districts are empty. Not just one factory, miles of them.
4. The Chinese banking system will collapse. When your loan customers have zero revenues, you have zero revenues. Of course, the government will print money, but so what.
5. All modern distribution systems are built around just in time delivery. If you quarantine a modern city for more that 48 hours, everything starts to run out.
6. The quarantines make no sense in light of what has been publicly stated about the disease. To be effective, a quarantine must be longer than the incubation period and the infectious period. That period means probably a month. China will not survive a month long quarantine.Thus, why bother?
7. The gov is now driving large trucks up and down city streets with fogging equipment. Giant clouds of who knows what.
7. HK has four routes in, and weirdly, only three have been cut off. It appears, that keeping a road open into HK (heavily guarded and checked, but nevertheless open) is more important to the commies than keeping 27 huge cities open. Hmmm..... He observes that HK has always been the way out of China.
8. He was already in the US when the SHTF, his issue is he can't go back (not that he's all fired up about that). But he was standing in the local big airport, and heard a US customs person ask a person of Chinese persuasion if they had been to Wuhan in the last month. My friend almost burst out laughing. A. Saying yes is an automatic 14 day quarantine, so no one in their right mind answers yes. And the US has no means of verifying the answer. B. Just Wuhan? 9. The Party's response to the published nature of the disease is entirely disproportionate. The Party's actions are consistent with an end of the world disease. Not a bad case of the flu. 27 closed cities?Fogging trucks? If one assumes the leadership has a reasonable level of IQ, an instinct for self preservation, and some reasonable level of IQ among its advisers, something much worse than a bad case of the flu is on the loose.
Other than that, everyone's doing great. /I'm not buying masks, I'm buying disposable booties.
//oh, forgot. The countries sending aircraft in for their nationals are not being nice. They are being scared sh*tless that said nationals will make it back into their home countries on their own, if left to their own devices. The planes are flying prisons.
Up to 24 days says a Taiwanese scientist. So the two weeks won’t cut it for isolation.
so short they could parachute off a pinhead
they made it - congrats to March ARB evacuee guests!
“1. If you don’t keep your shoes outside of your house or scrupulously manage them just inside your door and handle them as if you were removing a diseased kidney from an AIDS patient, including immediately scrubbing your hands, forget about the masks, etc. Streets are always filthy, and now they are contagious.”
I dont go that far but the point is valid. My shoes go off at the door and then I clean them off.
Thanks
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Source: https://www.scmp.com/tech/science-re...ained-shortage
Race to diagnose, treat coronavirus patients constrained by shortage of reliable detection kits
Chinese authorities issued approvals within two weeks for seven kits that employ the nucleic acid method to test for the presence of the virus
Liferiver, a Shanghai-based biotech company, took 20 days from development of its kit to market launch
SCMP
Coco Feng in Beijing and Minghe Hu in Beijing
Published: 6:30am, 11 Feb, 2020
Updated: 7:18am, 11 Feb, 2020
William Yang has been a bundle of nerves. For more than a week his 57-year-old mother showed symptoms of a cold, then high fever and breathing difficulties, but she was not treated as a novel coronavirus case until last Thursday.
The first appointment on February 1 was cancelled due to a shortage of test kits. Two days later, they secured one of the last tests in the daily quota at another hospital.
While it was a relief when his mother initially tested negative for the coronavirus, her condition deteriorated and after a second test she was diagnosed as positive but had to wait another day for a hospital bed.
“Quite a few days have been wasted,” he said on the phone. “First there were not enough diagnostic kits, then a false test.”
Her condition had not improved as of Monday, Yang said...
Jamaican Isolated After Symptoms Progress Amid Coronavirus Concern
Today, 06:27 PM
Jamaican health authorities are reporting that a patient who was being quarantined after returning home from China is now showing a “progression of symptoms” of the Coronavirus.
The patient had been quarantined as part of measures imposed by the Government late last month in response to the Coronavirus that has so far killed almost 1,000 people and infected thousands more in China.
At a press conference at the Health Ministry.....Bisasor McKenzie also reported that the patient has been tested and the results are expected in another two to three days.
At present two Jamaicans are in isolation, 12 quarantined in government facilities and 78 quarantined at home.
.’http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/l...avirus-concern
all is well
China has finally let a small WHO team in...
there will have meetings about letting in a larger team
Can anyone explain to me why if there are this many infected in Jamaica, that there are no cases listed for Jamaica on this Site below?
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
381 more in cases outside hubei.. 5 deaths
lowest new cases since jan 28th
Perhaps I can answer this myself...these dozen or so people have symptoms and are quarantined but do not have a positive test result yet?
County of Santa Clara, CA declares local health emergency after two cases. Officials stressed that this does not mean there is an increased risk to the public.
The declaration helps ensure that the county is prepared to respond effectively to the outbreak and allows them to receive mutual aid resources from the state of California and other jurisdictions.
The original March evacuees are getting out tomorrow. Wonder how close they were to the next group and if they had access to the same Zumba room, decks of cards, lunchroom and meal servers.
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