Skip to comments.Election Security Institute Criticizes Newly-Unveiled Nevada Caucus App After Iowa Disaster
Posted on 02/10/2020 10:45:12 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
An institute that studies election security criticized the Nevada Democratic Party for planning to use a digital tool for its caucuses, arguing that Nevada was likely to run into many of the same issues that Iowa did with its voting app last week.
The Open Source Election Technology (OSET) Institute began its Twitter thread Sunday with a link to a story from The Nevada Independent, which detailed how the Nevada Democratic Party (NDP) will be using a digital "tool" on the day of that state's caucuses on February 22.
The Independent reported that NDP staffers made a distinction between its tool and the app that was used by the Iowa Democratic Party for their caucuses on February 3. A faulty app that was not tested properly and had coding issues led to delays of the Iowa results.
"Deja Vu; this time in NV," OSET's first tweet read. "Let's be clear from the start: their's is an 'App' and no designation of "tool" changes that. Let's stop playing word games here. The fact that its pre-loaded & may not use mobile connectivity is the only 'difference.'"
The institute dismissed the NDP's distinction between an "app" and a "tool," arguing that any difference between the two was superficial.
"It's nonsense to get caught up in nuanced definitions over App vs. Tool in order to separate their upcoming caucus from Iowa," OSET's explained. "This is lipstick on the pig. An 'App' is the digerati abbreviation for 'software application' distributed over mobile networks (e.g., '5G' services)."
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Re: An institute that studies election security criticized the Nevada Democratic Party for planning to use a digital tool for its caucuses, arguing that Nevada was likely to run into many of the same issues that Iowa did with its voting app last week.
Isnt that the point?
I now think the Dems believe they have little chance of out-voting Trump, so their attack will focus on causing enough chaos and uncertainty in the vote counting so as to throw the election to the House, which is run by the Dems...
Add this to the mix:
It’s Deja Vu..........all over again...............
Nevada is going to turn caucus vote stealing into an art form.
They just throw all the leadership of the Nevada Democratic Party in jail now—precrime!
Dem motto: If at first you *do* succeed (In Iowa), try, try again.
Remember, in the democrat universe, FAILURE IS A Resume enhancement!................
well, having the app, uh, i mean “tool”, pre-loaded and (supposedly) pre-handed-out, is an important step in the roll-out of such new technology that didn’t happen in Iowa, BUT Nevada is going to be another total fiasco like Iowa, because the technology is going to have to be run by volunteers that have never seen it before and most likely have probably never used an app for anything other than watching cat videos, much less an app that requires the entry of relatively complex data, because volunteers at caucuses are generally the same kind of folks who arrange the cookies on the plates for church socials. These are very well meaning people but their tech quotient hovers right abound zero.
includes the following:
“The new tool will flow your precinct early vote data, so that you can have the information for your precinct caucus, so that when you do your viability calculations, youre able to get the number of people who voted early and then when you see the results of your first alignment, youre able to key in that early vote information so that you have every piece of information you need to run your precinct caucus.
Asked by a volunteer how results would be transmitted from one place to another, the staffer demurred.
Those are all excellent questions, and were still working out some of the details around those so Ill make sure that everyone has more information as were able to share it, she said.
In interviews, volunteers said they received little information at the training beyond a rough outline of how the tool is supposed to function. They also were unsure how the party plans to carry out its four-day early voting period, which previously relied on the use of an app to capture peoples preferences. CBS News first reported the existence of an unspecified tool on Friday.
Seth Morrison, who will be the site lead at Legacy High School on Caucus Day, said he debated long and hard whether to express his concerns about the caucus process.
For me, I volunteered to do this because Im a loyal Democrat, and theres nothing more I want to do than defeat Donald Trump, Morrison said. But if we allow this to go down and its another Iowa, what does this do for my party?
Morrison said that there was not a bit of proof at the training that Nevada wouldnt be another Iowa.
Another volunteer, who asked for anonymity to speak openly about the training process, said the general sentiment in the room at the training was frustration and confusion.
We got very little information. It was just a preview. There was no hands on, the volunteer said. We were not given the program to work with or practice with. All we have were a few slides to look at while they told us that theyre planning to develop it further.
Volunteers said they were also not given additional details about how they would properly realign early voters who are allowed to select up to five presidential preferences, ranked in order on Caucus Day should the new tool fail.
They also expressed concerns that the party is still recruiting caucus volunteers. Volunteers were told that precinct chairs should be prepared to carry out two caucuses at their site if necessary. One volunteer expressed concerns that the people participating in the training didnt even seem to understand the basic details of how to carry out the caucus process and didnt know that precinct chairs cant also be precinct captains on behalf of a campaign.
Nevada Democrats have been working quickly to come up with a new caucus plan after scrapping their plan earlier this week in the wake of the Iowa fiasco. Democrats in the Silver State had developed two apps one for early voting and one for Caucus Day to facilitate the caucus process this year but axed them both after it was revealed that the political technology company, Shadow Inc., responsible for developing their app had also developed the Iowa app.”
But Hillary needs her puppet Buttigeig to win Nevada.
Used to be, if it's not close, they can't cheat -- now, it's, if it's not complicated enough, they can't cheat.
Newly-Unveiled Nevada Caucus App sounds like a disease. It probably is in a way.
When the slides on software tell you they are going to “develop it further” that means you are totally f&^%ed!
“When the slides on software tell you they are going to develop it further that means you are totally f&^%ed!”
indeed. no REAL salesman for any commercial software company would EVER include such a slide, ESPECIALLY if it were true!
If the House votes for President, it is by State Delegation. The Republicans are majority on 26 delegations. PA is tied. MI would be tied except for Justin Amash.
"Immediately" is not defined. I can see Nazi Pelousy delaying any vote so as to give the Dems time to strongarm the Repubs into voting for the Dem candidate.
I apologize for being so cynical, but I've just seen way too much crap from the Dems these past three years, and this year the will pull out all the stops and go completely rabid....
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