Posted on 02/10/2020 6:45:05 AM PST by marktwain
CP33 with accessories and 50 rd mag extension, courtesy Dean Weingarten
At the Kel-Tec booth at the shot show, I talked to Kel-Tec lead design engineer Toby Obermeit and engineer Ryan Williams.
One of the first things I saw was the new extension magazine for the CP33. It holds 50 rounds of .22 LR. It was mentioned last year as a coming product and should be available this summer.
The CP33 has been an enormous success story. They are very popular; they have a reputation for both accuracy, reliability, and a good trigger. The CP33 only weighs 24 ounces with a 5.5-inch barrel and comes with two 33 round magazines. There are already a couple of aftermarket pistol braces available for the CP33.
I asked Toby about the P17, Kel-Tec's extremely light, .22 pocket gun that comes with three 16 round magazines. It had some teething problems. Videos on the net showed it to repeatedly fail to fire and function.
Toby said they had some early problems with a bad batch of stamped parts and springs. When asked about the requirement to use only high-velocity ammunition, he said the pistols will shoot both high velocity and standard velocity ammunition.
P17 pistols is are making their way through the distribution chain to the general public. Kel-Tec fans will be reporting how well the part and spring corrections are working in the next few months.
The concept has a great deal of promise. With a fixed barrel, there is good reason to believe the pistol capable of excellent accuracy. It is in direct competition with the Taurus TX22, the Glock 44, and perhaps the Ruger SR22.
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I know the early PMR30 had troubles with FTF but I understand they corrected that problem.
I wonder if this pistol shares much with the PMR?
I have thought about a PMR30 since I have a huge supply of .22 Mag that I shoot in my Magnum Research 10/22 mag rifle as well.
The PMR30 is the first Kel-Tec I’ve ever seriously considered.
Kel-Tec’s lac of quality in fit, finish and the extremely cheap toy feel they have had always kept me from them.
I now carry a Glock 36 but I still keep my KelTec P32 with me on the Harley. Don't even need a holster, just put a 1" cut in the bottom of my Wrangler's watch pocket, sits perfectly.
.22 LR.........I need to get one of these.
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The next time a squirrel pulls a knife on me......
I was told the Kel-Tec .22mag pistol was junk; too many plastic parts in the trigger assembly. Thoughts??
The Mossad used 22's in their assassination campaign against PLO leaders. They worked great until they killed the wrong man.
I have not fired the .22 mag version (PMR30).
It had a lot of problems.
So far, the reviews of the .22 LR version have been quite good, with the consensus that users need to pay attention and follow directions when loading the magazine.
I fired the CP33 at the Industry Day at the Range.
It had a very good trigger.
I love my Ruger Target Mk IV.
IIRC, the P32 is one of Kel-Tec's first products, but definitely a "keeper!" The P11/P40 (another early KT design) is a personal favorite...
The following is not specifically related to Kel-Tec, but metal is apparently not always better than plastic:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/trigger-warning-lessons-broken-gun/
In this case it was the trigger spring embedded in plastic that after firing for a while would basically crumble and you’d have to replace that whole lower assembly to fix it.
Hopefully the company addressed the issue, in a manner that satisfied the individual owners. That’s one thing that I hope I never have to pursue with Beretta; I’ve heard from LEOs (and others) that their customer support can be somewhat less than enthusiastic...
I have a Beretta Tomcat in .32 - nice. I love the tip up barrel feature plus it’s double action.
I had a DPS Trooper ask me why I carry such a small weapon. I told him it was my "Get to" gun. Keep 'em busy until I Get to the Glock or the .357.
What I would not give for a Colt Mustang in 32 or 380, I am not picky either works perfectly well.
I also own (among others) a Ruger .380 LCP
if a pistol has the Glock inspired trigger spur I will not buy it and I would use one only if I were being shot at and it was within reach. I prefer standard S/A automatics they have worked for more than a century and they still work.
More humans have been killed by the .22lr than another other round. So in theory this could be good, but Kel-tec is known for their hit or total junk miss products too.
I’ve owned a couple of P40s, plus a couple of 40 caliber P11 conversion kits, and have not had any issues with any of them. Maybe that’s luck (or maybe it’s because I don’t try to use the hottest ammo I can find in a 15 ounce pocket pistol! ;^). Lots of folks seem to emphasize ballistics above everything else - my personal priority is reliability. And you’re right about the “get to” gun; a friend has told me pretty much the same thing, although his stated preference is to “get to” a rifle or shotgun...
I once knew a gunshop owner in Colorado (who could have picked just about anything), and that's exactly the pocket gun he carried...
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