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Democrats to plow ahead with Trump probes post-acquittal
The Hill ^ | - 02/08/20 12:17 PM EST | OLIVIA BEAVERS

Posted on 02/10/2020 12:14:05 AM PST by robowombat

House Democrats say even though President Trump was acquitted in the Senate, that doesn’t mean they are going to ease off their investigations into his administration.

Democrats are weighing whether to pursue new leads of possible wrongdoing or press forward with probes that were already underway when an anonymous whistleblower's allegations last year sparked the impeachment inquiry.

But no matter which route they take, Democrats are confident there is more wrongdoing to be uncovered — it’s just a matter of when and how grave.

“Donald Trump, I still believe, is a one-man crime wave, and we can’t let him get away with all of his other offenses against the Constitution and the people,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee.

The House impeached Trump on two charges in December, alleging he withheld nearly $391 million in U.S. aid to Ukraine as leverage to press Kyiv to open investigations to benefit his 2020 reelection, including into former Vice President Joe Biden, one of his main political rivals. Democrats say Trump then sought to cover up his actions.

The GOP-controlled Senate acquitted Trump on Wednesday, with all but one Republican arguing his conduct was not an impeachable offense.

But Democrats, pointing to Trump’s recent remarks maintaining that his July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was “perfect,” have expressed concern that Trump will feel even more untouchable after his acquittal, despite being impeached in the House and admonished by moderate Republican senators.

One day after Trump’s acquittal, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the House was awaiting the outcome of several lawsuits previously filed by Democrats, including those targeting Trump’s financial records at Deutsche Bank and former White House counsel Don McGahn.

"We will continue to do our oversight, to protect and defend the Constitution," she said during a press conference Thursday, vowing to continue to investigate allegations of administrative wrongdoing, wherever it arises.

The McGahn case goes to the heart of a crucial question for House Democrats: Do they subpoena former national security adviser John Bolton and other witnesses related to the Ukraine saga? Pelosi declined to say if they would.

"Those cases still exist. If there are others that we see as an opportunity, we'll make a judgment at that time," she said. "But we have no plans right now."

Still, other Democrats have eagerly promoted the idea. Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said this week that he would “likely” pursue Bolton’s testimony.

House Democrats relentlessly pushed for the Senate to allow witness testimony during Trump’s trial, arguing that the White House obstructed their impeachment inquiry at unprecedented levels by not allowing officials — both current and former — to testify.

Congressional Republicans, meanwhile, argued that doing so would set a dangerous precedent of letting the House rush through its impeachment process and then pass off its responsibilities to the Senate, rather than first battling for key evidence in the courts.

But now that acquittal is in the rearview mirror, the decision about whether to pursue Bolton’s testimony has been punted back to the House.

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BY INVEST IN CANADA If the House decides to pursue Bolton, some Democrats believe they need to be ready for a legal battle and attacks from Republicans, who will characterize the effort as another partisan attempt to go after Trump through congressional investigations instead of at the ballot box.

Some Democrats, such as Rep. Ted Lieu (Calif.), said they would “support” going to court for Bolton’s testimony, which they say is key.

The Bolton deliberations come just weeks ahead of his book release in mid-March.

The New York Times made waves during the Senate trial by reporting that Bolton planned to dish damaging details about not only Trump’s contacts with Ukraine but also his contacts with other foreign leaders.

Democrats have noted that they are particularly interested in hearing from the former Trump official after the Times report said Bolton had similarly voiced concerns about Trump's contacts with China and Turkey, alleging that his former boss has granted personal favors to the leaders of the two countries.

“If you believe the Bolton leaks that this was not the only country that he was acting shady with, then I do think we should learn more about what's going on with Russia. What's going on with Turkey? What's going on with Saudi, North Korea, etc.?” said Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.), a member of both the Judiciary and Intelligence panels.

One example in the Times report said Bolton’s book will detail how Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan asked Trump — who ultimately agreed — to step in and ask members of his Cabinet to thwart a criminal probe into one of the country’s largest state-owned banks, known as Halkbank.

Democrats say they are going to discuss early next week how to move forward on the Trump probes.

“Those are all discussions for next week,” said Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.), a member of the Intelligence panel. “Obviously, it's an area of interest.”

Democrats aren't the only ones talking about pursuing impeachment-related investigations post-acquittal.

Senate Republicans are vowing to move forward with their investigations into Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.

Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, also said he intends to keep digging up dirt on the president’s political opponents in an effort to uncover corruption in Ukraine, and he encouraged Trump to do the same.

"I would have no problem with him doing it. In fact, I'd have a problem with him not doing it. I think he would be saying that Joe Biden can get away with selling out the United States, making us a fool in the Ukraine,” Giuliani told NPR's Steve Inskeep on Tuesday.

Democrats argued that the administration’s insistence on going after the Bidens is further reason to keep conducting oversight.

“It's pretty rich to hear these complaints from Republicans when they're still demanding Hunter Biden's travel records and Giuliani is still scouring the gutters of Eastern Europe for dirt on Trump's opponents,” said freshman Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.). “As far as I'm concerned, the House should keep doing what we've been doing — legislating and conducting oversight.”

While House Democrats have already used the strongest weapon in their arsenal to check a president’s conduct, they say there is nothing in the Constitution to stop them from impeaching again if the president’s behavior is serious enough to warrant such a response.

“Any future prospects for impeachment will depend on a mixture of the gravity of the offense and then the imminent danger to democracy and the election,” Raskin said. “If the president insists upon violating the Constitution to try to fix this election, he is going to find his met his match in the House of Representatives. We're not gonna put up with that.”

Embarking on a second impeachment effort would not only be unprecedented; it also would undoubtedly invite fierce political blowback.

Such a move is also considered unlikely, with Democrats noting that Pelosi was initially reluctant to take on impeachment in the first place.

For now, Democrats are bracing to see what the president does next.

“I'm a big believer ... that we didn't just happen to stumble upon one time in his presidency that he happened to act corruptly,” Swalwell told The Hill. “A leopard doesn't change its spots."


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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
1 posted on 02/10/2020 12:14:05 AM PST by robowombat
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The defenders of the Clintons and the Bidens preaching to us about corruption. They don’t even pause to catch their breath. Amazing.


2 posted on 02/10/2020 12:20:49 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Democrat scum will hound Trump to his to set an example.


3 posted on 02/10/2020 12:29:11 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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This seems like the outcome of the democratic party attack machine strategy. If you keep investigating someone hard enough...something from the past or present,is gonna pop out...and they will sieze upon it...to prove they were right. Something as small as a botched business deal would be magnified as systematic political corruption. All in a days work for the “democrats”


4 posted on 02/10/2020 12:46:50 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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These loon will never stop and get back to America's business.

Run them out of office in 2020

5 posted on 02/10/2020 1:09:42 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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They Have To!! As long as they appear to be ‘investigating’ this president they consider themselves immune from the prosecution that’s coming. It will be their defense When the Durham/Barr investigations come to indictments of the major figures. This is a desperate scramble to turn up their collars in anticipation of the noose.


6 posted on 02/10/2020 1:17:53 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (God Bless you Rush Limbaugh... We are with you.)
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I am convinced this nonsense by the left is all about countering what they fear are some pretty devastating findings to be soon disclosed by the JD along with some high profile arrests and indictments.

Theyywill claimit is all about payback for impeachment.


7 posted on 02/10/2020 1:18:40 AM PST by billyboy15
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Satan, the accuser of the brethren. They do the works of their father below.

I was reading Psalm 35 yesterday. It is Trump’s psalm. Read it when you can, and use it as a prayer to God for Trump.


8 posted on 02/10/2020 1:26:27 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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This all seems to be a symptom of the democrats letting people from California and New York set policy and agenda. Jerrold Nadler looks like the troll who lives under a bridge and charges goats to cross the bridge. So they replace him with Adam Schiff to be the face of the impeachment. Too bad for the dems that Adam Schiff looks and sounds like a bug eyed homosexual pedophile.
Aoc. Nancy pelosi. The last goes on. If the dems ever get a normal person from actual America they could be trouble.


9 posted on 02/10/2020 1:38:13 AM PST by Bernard ("I don't know if that's true:" Schiff said.)
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I agree...attack first...then any righteous judgement against you is discounted as revenge.


10 posted on 02/10/2020 1:41:49 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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Dem stupidity, America’s inexhaustible resource!


11 posted on 02/10/2020 1:43:51 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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We need term limits! we need to get these crazies out of congress!


12 posted on 02/10/2020 1:53:17 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip .com)
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13 posted on 02/10/2020 2:30:00 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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Ban & Outlaw the entire Democrat Party .

Stand up a multi million member Civilian Volunteer Militia to help enforce the ban.


14 posted on 02/10/2020 2:52:37 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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It’s the only way.
At this point they will never reconcile to normalcy.
There must be a vast purge.


15 posted on 02/10/2020 2:54:29 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: billyboy15

Exactly, accuse your opponent of what you are doing. When is the top going to be blown off the Clinton Foundation??


16 posted on 02/10/2020 3:00:10 AM PST by nuf said (Our Border, Our Choice!)
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Yes.
When this impeachment nonsense started, President Trump was at 39% approval in the Gallup polls. Last week, he hit 49% in the same polls, his highest ever. We are going to need to encourage the deranged Dem crazies to keep right on with these perpetual attacks, investigations and impeachments. For a guy like Trump, it's like giving spinach to Popeye.

17 posted on 02/10/2020 3:49:57 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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Although I agree with your take on what Democrats will and have been doing forever, in this case I believe they will simply call any crimes dug up by the JD as made up and nothing but retaliation for the investigations and Impeachment of the President.


18 posted on 02/10/2020 4:40:40 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: robowombat

It just cost us $35 million or so, who’s cashing-in on all this stuff?


19 posted on 02/10/2020 4:43:45 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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Ignoring the First Rule of Holes


20 posted on 02/10/2020 5:05:52 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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