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Virginia takes first step on gun ban
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | Feb. 7, 2020 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 02/07/2020 11:04:48 AM PST by PROCON

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To: Levy78

To the Democrats, a/k/a, Socialists it doesn’t. But you got to start somewhere. What they are doing flies in the Constitution, but very few in Law Enforcement give a damn about that. And it will give some the opportunity to decide which side they are on. Whether they side with the “I’m just doing my job” type that shoved the Jews into the gas chambers or decide to honor their sworn oath and defend the Constitution are the questions which remain to and will be answered in time. One way or the other. But I foresee a fight and bloodshed before this is settled.


61 posted on 02/07/2020 1:45:10 PM PST by sport
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To: teeman8r

Of course


62 posted on 02/07/2020 1:45:57 PM PST by Reily
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To: dware
Thank goodness they held a rally! Bet it made them feel real good, anyhow.

The rally already stopped a couple of bills.

This has not made it through the Senate, yet.

The Senate is the pinch point.

The Democrats only have a majority of 21 to 19.

What is your alternative to the rally?

It is just one of a number of tactics to fight this insanity.

63 posted on 02/07/2020 1:51:30 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: sport

To the Democrats, a/k/a, Socialists it doesn’t. But you got to start somewhere. What they are doing flies in the Constitution, but very few in Law Enforcement give a damn about that. And it will give some the opportunity to decide which side they are on. Whether they side with the “I’m just doing my job” type that shoved the Jews into the gas chambers or decide to honor their sworn oath and defend the Constitution are the questions which remain to and will be answered in time. One way or the other. But I foresee a fight and bloodshed before this is settled.


Agree. I just don’t see how protests stop tyrants. You do have to start somewhere, but they laugh in the face of our protests and then just proceed.


64 posted on 02/07/2020 1:52:26 PM PST by Levy78
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To: G Larry

The current legislature has been in office less than four weeks.


65 posted on 02/07/2020 2:14:05 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: PROCON

These bills may well be unconstitutional. But not in the way you think. The Virginia Bill of Rights has broader protections of individual liberty than the US Constitution.

There may well be relief there that cannot be won with a federal challenge.


66 posted on 02/07/2020 2:51:39 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: PROCON

That’s exactly the kind of legislation that Brett Kavanaugh argued against. Offending some women by repeatedly posting information about his opinions and information about his opposition was worth it.


67 posted on 02/07/2020 2:55:21 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

For example:

Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 1. Equality and rights of men
That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

Safety? How can one have a right to an AR 15 today and it is taken away tomorrow?

Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 17. Construction of the Bill of Rights
The rights enumerated in this Bill of Rights shall not be construed to limit other rights of the people not therein expressed.

Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 13. Militia; standing armies; military subordinate to civil power
That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

This last one indicates that military weapons cannot be banned from the people. Not that an AR 15 is a military weapon. Not an army in the world uses it. But it is being declared a military weapon in Virginia and therefore the people cannot posses.

Lastly this:
Section 17. Construction of the Bill of Rights
The rights enumerated in this Bill of Rights shall not be construed to limit other rights of the people not therein expressed.

If it right to have a musket in the house (a military weapon) existed at the time of the adoption of the constitution, it cannot be a basis that today’s military rifle can be prohibited from ownership.


68 posted on 02/07/2020 4:01:00 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

ah....that would explain the “odd” results.....


69 posted on 02/07/2020 4:18:39 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: FoxInSocks

In Colorado its been a year, so we have to work hard to regain the Senate to be able to put up roadblocks.


70 posted on 02/07/2020 4:20:38 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: dware

Elections have consequences!


71 posted on 02/07/2020 5:18:18 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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To: Fido969

You missed my point, the suppressors tend to be owned by the “Donor Class”, not the Bernie loving Quickie-Mart part time employee stoners.

As to the tax stamp, that is Confidential Tax Information that ATF may not share short of an active investigation/warrant.

Does the new bill exempt LE, Fed. employees, Museaums?
The court cases may take a decade, then the appeals......


72 posted on 02/07/2020 8:09:30 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Several states ban suppressors under state law.
ATF requires that any NFA ownership comply with state law or they will not issue the Fed. tax stamp.
So yes, VA can in fact ban suppressors, but since they have previously been legal thay are opening up a can of rancid worms.
It’s not the ‘Po Folk’ that own them, a lot of the owners are doctors and LAWYERS, retired LE, ex FBI, etc., who can afford to fight this.


73 posted on 02/07/2020 8:14:25 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: antidemoncrat

In CA they already banned SINGLE SHOT shotguns.
‘Cause “Slam-Fire” is SOOOOO scary!


74 posted on 02/07/2020 8:18:51 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.

Good info. Thanks.


75 posted on 02/08/2020 11:43:34 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (If cultural appropriation is wrong then how does a society benefit from diversity?)
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