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To: Cboldt

We the people ultimately hold government accountable. That is why the people must know the truth of what has occurred in their name. If they continue to make poor choices in the face of truth so be it.

Respectfully, you seem to be saying “just give up because it ain’t gonna happen.” In other words.... the deep state always wins.

While I cannot refute your reasoning to make such a declarative statement, I cannot bring myself to throw in the towel. I will be gone in the next few decades, but I sincerely want to leave this earth believing that the future is better for my children and grandchildren.

We have to try to expose what is happening and why because ultimately we are to blame for this as we are the ones who elected the current crop of swamp dwellers and we allowed this to happen on “our watch.”

Perhaps I am naive’ or just full of piss and vinegar with a dose of false optimism, but I cannot roll over for this. My children (and yours) are more important to me than I am and we owe them a fair effort.


63 posted on 02/06/2020 12:28:44 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer
-- Respectfully, you seem to be saying "just give up because it ain't gonna happen." --

I don't mean for it to come off that way, although I personally think it'll play out that way.

I want the public to get engaged, to be pissed, to demand independence and radically smaller federal government. Now smoking in the boys room is literally a federal offense.

The deep state wins when the public allows, and from what I see, the public allows and even encourages.

-- ultimately we are to blame for this as we are the ones who elected the current crop of swamp dwellers and we allowed this to happen on "our watch." --

As if a choice between Romney and Obama is our fault. The people have been cut out of their own future.

I'm not going to roll over either. I'm a firm believer in breaking the law in order to get results, but to do so in non-violent ways. See Gandhi and other forms of non-violent non-compliance. I am a firm advocate of doing good, and I will submit to whatever punishment the government chooses to dispense.

It's a tough nut, as one with a law degree to assert that the law is being used to destructive ends. The people must reclaim control over the law.

66 posted on 02/06/2020 2:03:22 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: volunbeer; Cboldt

“Respectfully, you seem to be saying “just give up because it ain’t gonna happen.” In other words.... the deep state always wins.

I don’t think Cboldt is saying “just give up” or “throw in the towel”.

Rather, he is saying “stop expecting an unelected government bureaucracy to hold ITSELF accountable.” That will never happen. Only the voters can hold government accountable, and that’s what elections are for.

Expecting the DOJ or other government agencies to hold themselves accountable, is a pipe dream, or a “charade” as Cboldt aptly calls it.

Miriam-Webster Dictionary: To be accountable means to be subject to giving an account or having the obligation to report, explain or justify something.

That definition implies the obligation to be accountable to others - “self accountability” is a nonsensical, oxymoronic concept.

I think Cboldt has put his finger on the reason the hoped for indictments never happen - the federal government is not going to purge itself. Only the voters can do that - and that is exactly why Donald Trump will will be re-elected in 2020, with coattails and a mandate to finally fire people that need to be fired.

President Trump, by winning in 2016, in effect “fired” Hillary Clinton and a whole host of deep state criminals who would have been running the government, had she won the Presidency. Then he fired Comey and a few more. He probably would have liked to keep firing them but Senators and Congressmen warned him the public support was not there

The problem was that his mandate for purging the deep state was not clear.

So that is what the President has focused on for 3 years; refrain from premature purge, defending his record, keep his promises, pass his agenda, appoint constitutional judges, and slowly but surely, educate the people, expose the fake news and the deep state, and seek a mandate for his second term.

If he receives that mandate, I think you will see more people fired - you will see some people pardoned - you will still not see a lot of indictments because the voters want reform, not payback.

Apologies,Cboldt, for presuming to guess your meaning - I just thought your point about “the charade of government self-accountability” was profound.


67 posted on 02/06/2020 2:17:11 PM PST by enumerated
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