No, The Wuhan Coronavirus Was Not Genetically Engineered To Put Pieces Of HIV In It

Forbes ^ | 2 Feb 2020 | Victoria Forster

[Steely Tom]

The newest of these was a little unusual because it was based on a pre-print of a real scientific paper, (since removed just a few hours ago) uploaded to website bioRxiv, where scientists can present their completed, or near-completed studies, prior to peer-review by other scientists. The work, by a group based in India, was entitled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag.”

[servantoftheservant]

Your idea that the virus just ‘copied’ some AIDS while it was in a bat or something is highly unlikely, and thoroughly refuted here:

https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/02/moderately-strong-confirmation-of-a-laboratory-origin-of-2019-ncov/

[Diogenesis]

much more likely:

FORBES was involved with Soros and Gates to make
this population killer. ..or.. got a payoff.

[Black Agnes]

No academics will admit this to be true. Every single college in the country takes big bux from the chicoms. Chicom master yanks the chain? they bark

No pharma employees will do it either, every single pharma has huge investments in/with chicoms. Chicom master yanks the chain? they bark

no government employee will either. LOTS of DARPA funding in that wuhan lab (WTF!?) Chicom master yanks the chain? they bark

Everyone is afraid of the 8000lb chicom monetary gorilla in the room. It’s shut this down with a vengeance. This is how you know it’s probably the real deal. The speed and vehemence with which the flying monkeys were released on the Indian guys tells you this isn’t normal. I’ve been in science for decades, never seen anything like that in my entire life.

I can tell you that privately, most molbios think this was fiddled with to increase infectiousness. For what purpose, and by whom we can leave for a further discussion. That it was done is enough.

[familyop]

True that the coronavirus is *not* HIV. It’s a bad situation, though. Stock up on food, soap and paper items now, so the trucks can roll sooner and replenish stores before epidemic arrival.

[Black Agnes]

Forbes is the investor class.

They only care if their investments make money long term.

If word gets out that the chicoms are trying to make bioweapons...

Mind you, they probably admit to themselves this is true. And don’t care, as long as they make money. It’s the peasants finding out and boycotting otherwise harming their investments that’s the problem.

[Cold Heart]

Just a thought on why we would invest trillions in a Chinese lab, no oversight by CDC, cheaper, less safety requirements?

[Spktyr]

Uh... I didn’t say anything about it being in a bat at the time. I didn’t even say where it might have picked it up. Or if it did. I was just pointing out that RNA viruses can recombine and often do - and that this was just one explanation.

[Black Agnes]

Ability to do research banned by our government.

Likely human studies w/o US clinical oversight requirements.

Dunno, it’s a thing though.

[nikos1121]

Tamiflu is antiviral too.

[Spktyr]

Please see your doctor to check your dosages. Thanks.

[Black Agnes]

Nice refutation.

I win.

[bkopto]

I don’t trust either the Chinese or the Indians. The Indians have an axe to grind against the Chinese. The Chinese are chronic liars.

However, I would tend to believe this US biowarfare expert, who thinks this 2019 virus was engineered to be a weapon:

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

[Spktyr]

SIV viruses, like HIV have recombined with each other: https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1923

Viruses recombine with cells and each other:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2013.00068/full

I don’t have time to plow through my bookmarks to find the paper with the specific cite in it, but I suggest you read this: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/80860956.pdf

[Black Agnes]

HIV and coronaviruses have been around, in people at the same time, for 50 years or so.

There are labs that do nothing but find and sequence coronavirus variants.

Have never seen this before.

That all 4 of these insertion peptides are in the binding region is like winning the lottery.

And this virus just so HAPPENED to win the virus lottery a few clicks from a BL4 lab.

In a country that’s lost BL3 viruses before. Recently.

I’ll let you take those odds. I’m out.

[Spktyr]

Actually, I’m tending to think the thing *did* escape a lab - I’m pointing out that “OMG AIDS VIRUS PARTS” is not actually proof that it was engineered. Other viruses do still have the four novel indicators:

https://massivesci.com/notes/wuhan-coronavirus-ncov-sars-mers-hiv-human-immunodeficiency-virus/

[DEPcom]

James Lyons-Weiler is an activist selling books. Look at the list of books on Amazon.

If he believes the virus has laboratory origins he needs to publish a paper with peer review.

[Lopeover]

The virus was weaponized, no matter how much pressure the global community puts on scientists. Man with ncoronavirus in Thailand was put on HIV viral meds and came through. Although they don’t know it he will stay healthy or if he & others like him, will become a modern day “typhoid Mary.”

[servantoftheservant]

The most likely explanation is artificial manipulation of some kind.

[servantoftheservant]

Peer review has been ruined by $. And the Chinese have a lot of them.

Just look at the WHO dancing like marionettes.

[null and void]

Nahhh, just a remarkable coinky-dink, nothing to see here, move along...

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