[Yollopoliuhqui]

>>England is a productive nation. Italy is one of the PIGS — Portugal, Italy, Greece, and Spain. The PIGS are welfare states relying on the productive northern European states for their support.

Keep in mind that those countries, the entirety of Latin America, the Philippines have their cultural roots in the Spanish Empire of the conquistadores. A deeper investigation will conclude that Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy were all dominated for centuries by Islam, their cultural ethics and value system are basically Muslim. This is why they are chronically corrupt and underperforming. The same could be said for remnants of the Western aristocracy and the industrial oligarchy. This is the mindset of SCARCITY.

[Jeff Chandler]

This is the mindset of SCARCITY.

Very astute.

[Cronos]

Yollo - your post is historically so completely, mindboggling WRONG it's incredible Keep in mind that those countries, the entirety of Latin America, the Philippines have their cultural roots in the Spanish Empire of the conquistadores. A deeper investigation will conclude that Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy were all dominated for centuries by Islam, their cultural ethics and value system are basically Muslim

Let's go through this

1. 1. "their have their roots in the Spanish empire of the conquistadors - err.. no, Greece and much of Italy wasn't part of the conquistadors
2. "were all dominated for centuries by Islam" -- err.. Portugal kicked out the Muslims in the 1200s, spain in the 1400s and Italy bar 100 years in Sicily (ending in the 9th century) and a few years in southern italy wasn't controlled by Muslims
3. Cultural ethics and value systems are basically Muslim? -- that is so completely nutzo it's not even worth refuting

[Cronos]

his is why they are chronically corrupt and underperforming.

Sigh... let's see you also have Belize and Jamaica - British cultural legacies that are chronically corrupt and underperforming

Then Italy and Spain were economic powerhouses from the fall of the western empire until the 1700s and Italy was an economic powerhouse 1950 to 1970 and Spain was and now is an economic powerhouse.

Perhaps a little reading is in order, yollo?