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Impeachment Trial of Trump: Remember When Pelosi and Nadler Insisted on Bipartisanship?
Townhall.com ^ | January 30, 2020 | Larry Elder

Posted on 01/30/2020 6:53:37 AM PST by Kaslin

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insists she does not "hate" President Donald Trump. Responding to a reporter's question after she directed the Democratic House Committee chairmen to draft articles of impeachment, Pelosi said: "As a Catholic, I resent your using the word 'hate' in a sentence that addresses me. I don't hate anyone. I was raised in a way that is a heart full of love and always pray for the president. And I still pray for the president. I pray for the president all the time. So don't mess with me when it comes to words like that."

Yet, in December 1998, during the House debate on the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, Pelosi attributed the Republicans' motive to their alleged "hatred" of Clinton. On the floor of the House, Pelosi said: "Today the Republican majority is not judging the president with fairness but impeaching him with a vengeance. In the investigation of the president, fundamental principles which Americans hold dear -- privacy, fairness, checks and balances -- have been seriously violated, and why? Because we are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton, and until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer."

As recently as last March, Pelosi argued that, without significant buy-in from Republicans, she considered a Trump impeachment a non-starter. Pelosi said: "Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

In 2017, the now-House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., then in competition for the chairmanship against fellow Democrat Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., shared Pelosi's position: "There's not much point in impeaching a president and having him acquitted in the Senate as happened with Clinton. ... If you are actually going to remove a president from office, you are in effect nullifying the last election. Certainly the people who voted for him will think you're nullifying the election. It's OK to do that. It may be necessary to do that -- as long as you have persuaded a sufficient fraction of the president's former supporters, the people who voted for him, that you have to, that it's necessary." And, at the time, Lofgren agreed. "By the time the vote was taken in the Judiciary Committee to impeach Richard Nixon, the country understood it and they agreed with it," said Lofgren. "This should be a healing effort, not a divisive effort, if it happens."

Trump defenders call his impeachment the "most partisan in history." It is. The House vote to start an impeachment inquiry into President Richard Nixon was 410-4. In the case of President Bill Clinton, 31 House Democrats joined House Republicans in voting for a formal impeachment inquiry, and eventually five Democrats voted for at least one article of impeachment. Not one House Republican joined the House Democrats in voting for an impeachment inquiry of Trump, and none voted for either of the two articles of impeachment. Not one.

At the time of Clinton's impeachment, about two-thirds of Republican voters wanted Clinton convicted and ejected from office. Currently, 89% of Democrats want Trump convicted and ejected from office.

Again, as a percentage of their own parties, fewer Republicans wanted the expulsion of the "hated" Bill Clinton from office than Democrats who today want Trump expelled. Again, 31 House Democrats voted for Clinton's impeachment inquiry, with five House Democrats voting for an article of impeachment. Today, 89% of Democrats want Trump out, even though not one Republican in the house voted for the Trump impeachment inquiry.

How weak is the Democrats' case for impeachment? After the first day of Trump's defense team that argued against conviction, Jeffrey Toobin, CNN's chief legal analyst, said: "I just think the Republicans are winning here. The president is winning here. And as long as they don't completely fall on their faces -- which, they're all competent lawyers; they're not going to do that -- I think that's fine for them." And as to obstruction of Congress, the second article of impeachment, CNN legal analyst Ross Garber said: "Presidents going back to Washington have asserted privileges and immunities and objections. You know, President Obama's attorney general was cited for criminal and civil contempt of Congress. I think it would be very dangerous to say that that is now a basis for impeachment."

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., who demanded Trump's impeachment well before the whistleblower filed his or her complaint, said: "Impeachment is whatever Congress says it is. There is no law." She's right. Her statement shows that impeachment is really a political process rather than a legal one. However one feels about the merits of Trump's impeachment, it fails the bipartisan standard that Democrats like Pelosi and Nadler once demanded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demonrats; impeachment; impeachmenttrial; jerrynadler; maxinewaters; nancypelousi; presidenttrump

1 posted on 01/30/2020 6:53:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The accused is not being allowed to face his accuser (the whistleblower).
The accused is not being charged with any actual crimes.
The only “evidence” is hearsay.
The standard of proof is unknown.

I am amazed that this legal proceeding is allowed at all. This is right out of Kafka.


2 posted on 01/30/2020 6:56:10 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

If the Democrats can’t depose Bolton in advance of his testimony, they can’t be sure what he will actually say. Suspect he will be a bust. The only witness that the Trump team must call is Paul Pelosi. Nancy’s son did exactly the same thing in Ukraine that Hunter Biden did. If Trump’s lawyers are skillful, they can expose how the Democrats corruptly funneled Ukraine cash to themselves. At the end of the trial, Trump will be acquitted and vindicated. Nancy can then use her shiny new gold pen to sign her resignation letter and Paul’s bail bond.


3 posted on 01/30/2020 6:59:45 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Kaslin

The river of hypocrisy that flows out of the Democrat Party is truly amazing. It has reached flood levels and its still rising.


4 posted on 01/30/2020 7:00:41 AM PST by Starboard
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To: ClearCase_guy
I am amazed that this legal proceeding is allowed at all.

It really is animal farm, isn’t it?

5 posted on 01/30/2020 7:02:45 AM PST by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go faster than Army tanks)
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To: allendale

+1


6 posted on 01/30/2020 7:03:57 AM PST by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go faster than Army tanks)
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To: All
The bottom line on Impeachment Day Nine
(hat tip NY Post Editorial Board / January 29, 2020)

Senator Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and friend.

"What fresh hell?"

7 posted on 01/30/2020 7:04:50 AM PST by Liz (used of money Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: allendale

This scenario has zero chance of ever happening. Republicans will cave in like they always do on any witness deals. They are just too weak and feckless to ever hold the Dems accountable for anything.


8 posted on 01/30/2020 7:06:15 AM PST by Starboard
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To: All

This is the part I’m waiting for.

Trump already issued the warning that “Schiff has yet to pay the price for impeachment.”

That was BEFORE Bolton was outed on tape as a schnook.

At the trial, Schifty insisted they HAD to hear from Bolton “b/c everyday we get new evidence about Trump’s abuses.”


So I guess Schifty will be ready for his closeups when Trump starts (cough) leaning on him....cackle.


9 posted on 01/30/2020 7:08:12 AM PST by Liz (used of money Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

The fact that this fake impeachment has gotten this far is a testament to absurdity. A complete sham has effectively been legitimized and dignified by the senate.


10 posted on 01/30/2020 7:08:45 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Kaslin

These people are subversive traitors.


11 posted on 01/30/2020 7:09:07 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Starboard

I agree....the Senate should have thrown it out.....

But it looks like McConnell and Trump had a few aces up their sleeves and were anxious to play them in the Senate......


12 posted on 01/30/2020 7:11:16 AM PST by Liz (used of money Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Kaslin

Ne’er-do-wells so so ENVIOUS of the President and his family.


13 posted on 01/30/2020 7:39:07 AM PST by Maudeen (http://ThereIsHopeinJesus.com/)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats are Janus-faced to a man/woman. Take the expression “No One Is Above The Law” except the Progressives/Marxist who call themselves, Democrats......


14 posted on 01/30/2020 7:44:12 AM PST by yoe ( Look at the "Squad" is that the future anyone wants for America?)
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To: Kaslin

” I was raised in a way that is a heart full of love and always pray for the president. And I still pray for the president. I pray for the president all the time.”

Oh I’m sure she “prays”, and it ain’t got the President’s well being either.

I’d venture a guess that that hypocritical witch would spontaneously combust if she ever set foot in a church.


15 posted on 01/30/2020 10:47:21 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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