Posted on 01/29/2020 10:46:28 AM PST by yesthatjallen
Leftism IS nihilism... Abortion, gay sex, complete self-absorption, suicide, feminism, population control, animal rights over human rights, apocalyptic predictions for the future... The only good news is that the left is the most heavily impacted by it. Conservatives have to fight like hell to make sure it stays that way.
Post-secondary education costs are going to vary. Our firstborn got his degree in Law Enforcement and graduated debt-free, is now a USMC Captain and pilots a Harrier jump-jet.
The cost of health insurance depends on a number of variables, including state - county - age - previous health history, but according to ehealthinsurance.com,
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without a Subsidy?
"The following data reflects health insurance costs and shopping trends from the 2018 Open Enrollment Period, which ran from November 1 to December 15, 2017. Average premiums and deductibles nationwide for unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $440 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $1,168 per month."
The family with $35,000 income and 5 kids -- that would be the gal who's heading up the Tri Cities 40 Days for Life campaign this Spring.
Happy, healthy family --- all that, and taking her share of civic responsibilities as well.
I don't know, but it could be some wouldn't like their clothes or their car.
Premiums for individual coverage averaged $440 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $1,168 per month.”
I am in the health insurance business as a broker. The average family rate is now $2500- 2800 month.
Individuals are $600 plus
Pregnancy is a debilitating, disfiguring disease condition which curtails a female’s social life and produces lifelong financial and civil responsibilities; for which abortion is the cure.
Location, location, location.
“Location, location, location”
Health Insurance is fairly level across the country. I am a HI broker for individual and groups. The average family plan is $2400-2600 per month with a $5000 deductible.
Your friend getting by on $35 k per year with a family of 7? It’s economically impossible.
That is only $5km per person per year. House payment, house taxes, car and house insurance, car payment, health insurance, property taxes, gas and utilities, clothing, food, house and car maintence and gas, phones, entertainment, Birthdays, Christmas, school supplies. etc
Either your friend is telling you a wrong amount or they are on Medicaid and food stamps.
Average family income is 90k per year. Govt poverty level is $44k a year per family. Below that they are eligible for Medicaid and food stamps in any state in the country.
As for moving to more rural areas and having larger family. My niece was born and raised in NOVA/DC as with her husband.
Are they supposed to just uproot and move away from parents and families? Easier said than done.
Its funny you assume because I state I would like ponzi schemes to fail, that i must also desire people’s lives to be destroyed.
Why don’t you actually not read into things that someone doesn’t say? Stop assuming what isn’t there.
Used to be, children were a work asset for the household, especially for farm families.
A century+ ago, there werent all the conveniences wash machines, refrigerators, automatic furnaces, vacuum cleaners, automatic stoves, prepared foods, indoor plumbing, powered mowers, milking machines, cars and trucks. Not much leisure time unless there were numerous helpers the kids.
There were horses and livestock to tend, crops to plant and harvest, water to fetch and waste to haul, clothes to hand-wash and hang to dry, fires to tend, food to prepare and cook, floors to sweep and carpets to beat. Kids were needed and desired to help with it all.
"But if the Social-Security-type "Ponzis" fail, the ones who suffer will not be the people who designed them and set them up, but people who have been paying into them all their lives."
In your view, is that much of what I wrote, true?
That isn’t necessarily true.
If they are still alive, many ponzi scheme creators have been jailed and ordered restitution and fines. One of Obama’s solar panel company bigwigs are being prosecuted for their ponzi scheme right now.
Now since fdr is dead we can’t do anything but we can pass laws that prevent government from creating ponzi schemes either directly or through mandates on private companies.
The reason social security ponzi scheme is so heinous is that it actually violates contract law. I never signed up for it. My parents did. But i can’t get out of it even though i never voluntarily entered the contract. and they don’t let you leave, ie they dont stop collecting ss money from you. And they won’t give you back what you put in. and then they start shifting the dates back when you can start collecting because people are living longer.
they want everyone to put in way more than they take out. rhey let other people sign up those who might not want to be in it and those people can’t get out of it.
and, as I reported,
"The following data reflects health insurance costs and shopping trends from the 2018 Open Enrollment Period, which ran from November 1 to December 15, 2017. Average premiums and deductibles nationwide for unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $440 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $1,168 per month."
You can say that's not possible from your point of view as an insurance professional, so I'll be glad if you'll supply a link giving a more accurate figure.
I have no intention of finding out whether my friend Donna's family qualifies for TennCare or Food Stamps. It wouldn't surprise me if her family is considered "poverty level." My childhood family was considered "poverty level" but we lived contentedly on one wage (my father was a laundry worker, my mother a full-time homemaker). We got clothes for birthdays, we gave away cookies and went caroling for Christmas, and we had no public assistance and no debt--- but that was 50 years ago.
Having said all that --- which is all I'm going to say about Donna and her family --- it's still a fact that you can choose to live in Northern Virginia/DC and require two earners and a high income to live like they do in that ZIP code, or live in Tri-Cities TN and raise five fine sons and daughters on one income under $40,000, like they do in *that* ZIP code.
Those are choices. It depends what you want. I did not say I resented anybody's ZIP code or anybody's choice.
I sure agree with that. SS is a forced contract with forced payments that you can’t opt out of. For that and the other reasons you describe, it’s a form of large-scale fraud.
And unlike business ponzi schemes, government made it so that other people could sign you up, and like hotel california, you can never leave. If you arenlt the one signing the contract and government won’t allow you to get out of a contract you never signed, you are a slave.
why have some western women not taken having children and raising them seriously? neglected, harmed in many ways, aborted, spoiled entitled, all sorts of reasons many western women are so focused on themselves - and no longer see motherhood as a blessing and gift
The homeschooling community is bigger and more successful than you might think. We have a neighbor who is a sales rep for homeschooling curricula. He goes around to homeschooling conventions and sells his stuff. Its his full time job. There wouldnt be conventions and competing publishers vying for the business if there werent a bunch of people who are homeschooling.
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