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To: Popman

You’ve obviously never been in close personal proximity to a PCP “dusted” person who doesn’t have your best interests - or anyone’s - in his mind. They are OUT of their minds and can kill you or maim you in a nanosecond. Their strength on it is just unbelievable. Handcuffed or not, being anywhere close to them while they can move ANY parts of their body is extremely hazardous.

Believe me, I had my share of them in EMS and learned how to completely secure them, and NEVER to turn your back on them.

I had one that took nearly 7 cops and Fire/EMS to restrain and get on the cot. I had learned some neat tricks to use body positioning against them, and had him tied onto a backboard with cravats/triangular bandages, secured with bow knots plus straps. LOL Head, arms, legs, chest, waist, all secured with straps or cravats.

When we got him to the ER, one of the bleeding heart nurses told me to untie his hands because they were turning blue. I told her that they were turning blue because he was straining against them and if he relaxed, he’d get circ back. She was adamant that I release him.

I told my tech to get everything of ours out of the treatment room and I popped the bow knots... then beat feet out of the room.

There were loud crashes and screams, then a call for security. I laughed and got in my ambulance and headed back to quarters. You can bet that nurse never again doubted my judgement and restraints on a violent/dusted patient.

Sometimes the stupid, it DOES burn.


32 posted on 01/29/2020 1:29:15 PM PST by hadit2here ("The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: hadit2here
When we got him to the ER, one of the bleeding heart nurses told me to untie his hands because they were turning blue.

What kind of ER was that??? I worked in a big city ER for years and our nurses would demand full restraints on anyone even looking like they might be a problem. I guess you could say that our nurses had a lot in common,attitude-wise,with your typical Marine DI.

33 posted on 01/29/2020 2:02:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: hadit2here

Thank you for your service.

Been there, done that, have the T shirt.


35 posted on 01/29/2020 3:34:20 PM PST by lightman (The Millenials are asleep in their "wokeness".)
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