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Mystery lab next to coronavirus epicentre
News Corp Australia ^ | January 29, 2020 11:37am | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 01/28/2020 8:11:30 PM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: adorno
My first thought after the coronavirus outbreak was: population control and/or biological warfare.

China doesn't need population control. Its population density is similar to the EU's, and significantly lower than most of its neighbors. It's also obvious from the efforts of the dregs of China that emigrate that they are fairly productive when left to their own devices. A case in point is the composition of this US Math Olympiad team that took first place, tying with China, against global competition in 2019:

But Wuhan is reputed to be host to an offensive biowarfare research facility, not a defensive one like the one at Fort Detrick.

21 posted on 01/28/2020 8:32:40 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Given that SARS was from bats the first go-round, not surprising this one is as well.


22 posted on 01/28/2020 8:33:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Blurb2350

The stolen virus story is from Canada. And IIRC, they actually shipped it to China. Somehow got caught.

But it was not a China Bat/Sars virus that we know of....it was various cornoavirus


23 posted on 01/28/2020 8:33:50 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Secret Agent Man

You may or may not understand this article..I do a little.

” But crucial genes — for a protein that allows the virus to latch onto and infect cells — were different in the human and known bat versions of the virus, leaving room for doubt about this hypothesis.”

CHapel Hill solved that.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-07766-9


24 posted on 01/28/2020 8:43:49 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Zhang Fei

Bioweapons development for at least some nations tends towards pathogens that end their missions within relatively short time spans and short distances.


25 posted on 01/28/2020 8:47:24 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: plain talk

Wounding often creates a larger logistical problem for the recipient of an attack. Perhaps 3% is an optimal number for this biological if it is indeed a weapon.


26 posted on 01/28/2020 8:49:03 PM PST by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Black Agnes

THis is funny to me. I guess it could be true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbA2PRYsakA&feature=youtu.be

CHinese Propoganda video of a man cured of the virus


27 posted on 01/28/2020 8:49:46 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Black Agnes

No idea if true..from twitter

Humanspan
@humanspan

A flight carrying U.S. diplomats, family members and other Americans out of Wuhan, China, as a potentially deadly form of #coronavirus continues to spread, was diverted from its planned destination of Ontario to March Air Force Base on Wednesday. 240 people, possible 2 week stay.


28 posted on 01/28/2020 8:57:30 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Zhang Fei

Well it took everybody long enough to get there, how dumb are people? My friends and I were talking about this lab last weekend.


29 posted on 01/28/2020 8:57:32 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Jet with US employees from China diverted to March air base amid coronavirus concerns
https://abc7.com/health/jet-carrying-us-employees-from-china-diverted-to-march-afb-amid-coronavirus-concerns/5887106/


30 posted on 01/28/2020 8:57:41 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: RummyChick

Appears true

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2020/01/28/flight-from-epicenter-of-coronavirus-outbreak-redirected-to-march-air-force-base-in-riverside-county/


31 posted on 01/28/2020 8:58:31 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Zhang Fei

Australia scientists claim first re-creation of coronavirus outside China
1 HOUR AGO
https://www.trtworld.com/life/australia-scientists-claim-first-re-creation-of-coronavirus-outside-china-33308


32 posted on 01/28/2020 8:59:54 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Yeah...so ...uh...think someone is really sick on that plane????

Or maybe Trump decided it was better to handle it this way.


33 posted on 01/28/2020 9:00:35 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Zhang Fei

Australia to quarantine coronavirus evacuees on Christmas Island
10 mins ago
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-australia-christmas-island-quarantine-b034dc20-bc23-47b0-9d52-f4a548f96597.html


34 posted on 01/28/2020 9:02:15 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Cold Heart
Wounding often creates a larger logistical problem for the recipient of an attack. Perhaps 3% is an optimal number for this biological if it is indeed a weapon.

There's no wounds from viruses, most recover completely. Much higher lethality limits the spread and lethality is not easy to figure out so 1 to 10% is probably just a ball park estimate for an engineered weapon.

35 posted on 01/28/2020 9:02:18 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: Zhang Fei

Google shuts down Taiwan office due to viral outbreak
Google, Facebook advise their employees to avoid traveling to China

By Ching-Tse Cheng, Taiwan News, Staff Writer
2020/01/29 12:26
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3866348


36 posted on 01/28/2020 9:03:11 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

there are a lot of Chinese students and TAs in Douglas County, home of KU, the embarassing basketball hooligans in Lawrence KS


37 posted on 01/28/2020 9:04:14 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Island quarantine plan as foreigners leave China
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2020-01-29-island-quarantine-plan-as-foreigners-leave-china/

[Along with evacuation plans of other nations.]


38 posted on 01/28/2020 9:05:42 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: plain talk

“Doesn’t sound like much of a bio weapon with a 3% kill rate.”

It’s too early to be sure of the kill rate (since many who have it have yet to die), but the virus, ALREADY, is sending 25% or so of those who get it to Intensive Care.

...that is a weapon, and a bad one.


39 posted on 01/28/2020 9:05:54 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Cold Heart

Yes, it is more difficult to deal with sick and wounded than expired.


40 posted on 01/28/2020 9:06:44 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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