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To: HamiltonJay; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; LS; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; ...

Yes, I don’t think with the economy we could have won in 2008 even if McCain had not been a little bitch.

But 2012 was very winnable. Disastrous election, in the Senate races as well. I remember laughing at the idea of Trump 2012, lol at me. Unfortunately none of the other 2012 candidates strike me as winners either.

And yes, Obama is the only President to win reelection (to a 2nd term, FDR’s 3rd and 4th were reduced) with a reduced popular vote total and electoral vote.

Woodrow Wilson’s margin of victory, popular and electoral, was greatly reduced in 1916 because it was not a 3-way race, but his vote total and percentage of the popular vote went way up. Given that Wilson would have lost if the vote was not split in 1912 (that year he got fewer votes than the rats got in 1908), he actually improved his position.

If you wanna count it, Grover Cleveland’s 2nd non-consecutive term was won with a bigger margin and more raw votes than his first term but a smaller total share of the popular vote (there was a significant third party candidate).

Andrew Jackson was reelected with more votes, a larger popular margin, and more electoral votes, but a slightly smaller share of the popular vote (again there was a third party factor).

The popular vote was not a major factor at the time but James Madison was reelected in 1812 with reduced support. So we can say he’s the only President before Obama to get reelected with less support than he had the first time. Rather amazing stat if you think about it, every other President either lost or did better.


22 posted on 01/31/2020 12:07:03 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; HamiltonJay; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Zero should’ve been the easiest Demonrat Presidential candidate to beat in the history of the Republic. Absolutely no accomplishments as either a State Senator or U.S. Senator (for which he had barely served in the latter, and in the minority for half his time). An empty suit.

He had tried to have it both ways, hoping no one would notice, portraying himself as BOTH a foreign national (born in Kenya, from his own materials) and then lastly switching it to Hawaii when he realized claiming foreign birth would prevent his becoming President. That’s outright fraud, no different than Fauxcahontas. He had foreign governments bankrolling and supporting his educational career (red flags). He was mentored by actual domestic terrorists, had a premier Soviet sympathizer as his “de facto” father. He was raised a Mohammadan in a foreign nation (Indonesia) sent to a Mohammadan school and mislead or denied his religious sympathies.

He attended (for show) an anti-Christian racist “minister’s” SJW circus to get “street cred”, for which had a White candidate attended a church that preached similar doctrine in reverse would’ve been obliterated for.

And this just a few things. An actual candidate for the Republicans and even a half-retarded campaign manager could’ve destroyed this phony and dangerous nutter with ease. They simply didn’t want to, and let this guy spend 8 years “fundamentally changing America” for the worse (capping an additional 20 prior years of establishment corruption that ripped this nation to shreds).


23 posted on 01/31/2020 3:39:28 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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