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To: Hulka
'Show up to court with a toothbrush': ICE says sanctuary city officials should expect jail time if they ignore subpoenas

I see your quibbling is aimed at “leadership.”

Well, unless those rank and file line Agents are the ones who make this level of leadership decision and statement, I'd think that would be clear to any adult, but not so evidently. Of course this admission on your part didn't stop you from mis-characterizing my emphasis, as an attack on line Agents.

Your rant was unclear about that and appeared to include line Agents.

And yet you grasped it. Reference your own comments above. You drew me into the line Agent comment, with "Do you know any line Agents?" My one mistake was addressing that on point. It was a sophomoric question. I gave it a flippant answer. I should have just addressed it for the sophomoric rubbish it was and moved on. I didn't attack line Agents. You moved the focus off the group I was addressing, and then blamed me for not respecting the line Agents I hadn't addressed.

If you guy's hearts were in the right place on this, you would have stated that you agreed wholeheartedly with my comments directed at the premise ICE has allowed these Sanctuary Cities to dictate to them what these cities would do or not do. Instead you have spent your time trying to draw the conversation off the leadership's tactics which I panned.

Line Agents are tough men and sadly you appeared to lump them with leadership.

Oh B.S. Name one action I trashed them for not taking. Who said they weren't tough men? Please post one criticism I made against line Agents. Further, what adult would address the line Agents as 'tough men', as if anyone challenged that. The ICE leadership has shirked it's duty for a long long time.

Like soldiers operating within silly ROE, the same applies to line ICE Agents. Do you insult soldiers restricted by ROE? Didn’t think so.

One more attempt to move this off leadership and on to line Agents... Point to my criticism of line Agents.

I suppose you would not insult line Agents, especially to their face.

Once again, you continue to focus on line Agents, something that was not my intent. And you acknowledged that in you first comment. Did I really have to spell all this out for you? Evidently so...

If on the off chance you do insult line Agents, please know they are entertained by your “foaming at the mouth” rant.

My comments were directed at leadership whose policies allowed Sanctuary Cities to dictate to ICE what they would do in the way of compliance. They've been doing it for around seven years now. I recited what recidivist illegal alien criminals are doing, and you reference my comments as nothing more than a "foaming at the mouth" rant. The calloused disregard for the victims of these illegal alien's crimes, is rather remarkable. Nope, just foaming at the mouth...

I know many line Agents and they bet me an adult beverage that you will come back with another childish scatter-gun attack.

Who used the scatter-gun approach to move this topic off ICE leadership and onto the line Agents?

I said you were just frustrated and lashing out and have now calmed down and will not continue to act irrationally.

Frustrated? Hell yes. Aren't you? Well then you misspoke. I haven't acted irrationally. You're the one who couldn't grasp what the topic of the thread was about, and who I was addressing with my comments on topic.

Do you guys actually agree with the way ICE has allowed itself to be dictated to by these cities? Are they not officers who swore an oath to the U. S. Constitution and the laws of our nation? Have those leaders not acted intimidated, buffaloed by the municipality's officials?

Instead of joining me to criticize the leadership, you've missed the whole point, and are taking me to task for objecting to what has been going on.

The laugh is on you folks here.

Moving the topic off ICE officials and onto the line Agents, is actually a bit narcissistic. The actions of the leadership had to be ignored, and the victims of crime had to be also.

I have no doubt these men are decent men, but then I never said otherwise. You simply did your best to imply it, even after you admitted you knew otherwise.

55 posted on 01/27/2020 12:08:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Broad attacks that qualifies: “ ICE, everyone is laughing at you. You guys are scared of your own shadow”. Said “ICE, no specifics, just “ICE” and that means everyone.

At any rate, you are correct, absolutely spot-on, insightful.

Things to do so have a nice evening/day.


56 posted on 01/27/2020 5:49:46 PM PST by Hulka
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