Posted on 01/23/2020 2:39:10 PM PST by Ennis85
THE White House has livestreamed a church service which saw the US vice-president speak and a bishop claim the devil causes homosexuality.
After Mike Pence addressed the congregation in Tennessee, the preacher took to the pulpit to talk about same-sex relations in a sermon still available on the administrations YouTube channel.
It is a demonic spirit that causes a woman to want to live with another woman, he said. It is a demonic spirit that causes a man to be attracted to another man.
The preacher, who has been named as Bishop Jerry Wayne Taylor, claimed the devil was trying to destroy the foundation of marriage and cut off the reproduction process.
Two men cant have a baby. Two women cant have a baby, he told the crowd at the Holy City Church of God in Christ.
The White House has been condemned on social media for streaming the sermon.
One person tweeted: Did I misunderstand the part about separation of church and state?
The vice-president known for his religious conservatism said he visited the Memphis church to celebrate its anniversary and Martin Luther King, the day before a national holiday commemorated the civil rights leader.
After Mr Pence spoke, the bishop told the crowd homosexuality was against nature.
You never see two male animals coming together, he said though research has found that over 1,500 species engage in homosexual behaviour.
The White House defended Mr Pence from accusations of homophobia by claiming the fact he met Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and his partner showed he was not anti-gay, but Donald Trump reportedly once joked Mr Pence wanted to hang all gay people.
If sex is only for procreation explain this verse to me, please. It’s an honest question, no bull.
Genesis 18:12-14 New King James Version (NKJV)
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I have grown old, shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?
I read a study out of Oxford debunking the claim as well. I also should have saved it somewhere. The gist of it was that the claim comes from the authors engaging in category error. Animals have a limited number of behaviors. Sometimes they’ll use similar behaviors for different reasons. (ex: dogs mount other dogs as an expression of dominance) This is not homosexuality. Dogs don’t try to engage in reproductive behavior with the same sex.
Sexual attraction and sexual behavior, rather, is only for the purpose of procreation, as nature intends it. But if you were to ask “What about people who are sterile? Why do they have sex?”, I would respond that sterility is an abnormality. Now if you will admit that homosexuality is also an abnormality, we can finally agree.
Apparently that person misunderstood all of it.
The founding fathers were concerned about the separation of the POWERS of CHURCH and STATE.
And since this is not what the devil wants to be told, then thru some his proxies,
The White House has been condemned on social media for streaming the sermon.
You never see two male animals coming together, he said though research has found that over 1,500 species engage in homosexual behaviour.
And with legs of kids and even fire hydrants, but not because of preferences for such versus the opposite sex, except possibly for aberrations.
One person tweeted: Did I misunderstand the part about separation of church and state?
Yes. The First Amendment, as shown by many writings of Founders, did not mean the government could not affirm religious faith, or its source, and even the general religion of the Bible,or its morality, which many Founders did , without establishing a state religion all needed to affirm. Yet it made laws that flow from religious faith of the Founders and their electors, and which all are to obey, though a minority find these offensive.
Animals eat their own poop and don’t respect consent or age appropriate ‘rules’. Even interspecies rape can occur.
None of it is civilized behavior.
Homofascists aren’t about equality or human rights. They are supremacist in their agenda and decidedly anti-Christian.
Actually, not true. Try penguins.
I figure a lot of the evidence attached to a political or social agenda is cherry picked. That’s what happened with climategate, when the U.N. scientists deleted data that didn’t match their predetermined conclusion. Science mixed with just about anything else always equates to bad science.
I think we are in agreement. Homosexuality is a mental illness caused by childhood sexual abuse. I have counseled more than fifty homosexual adults and the one common trait? Molested during their formative years. I believe that sex is God’s gift to man. I also believe that Sarah was expressing a desire for physical intimacy with Abraham even though her comment and laughter indicated that she did not believe that pregnancy would result.
Yes, I agree with you on all points. In many cases, who knows how many because there have been no serious studies, homosexuality was imprinted due to some childhood trauma. And it’s only getting worse now that society accepts it as “normal”, even praiseworthy. There is even an 11 to 1 disparity in the number of child molesters who are homosexuals vs heterosexuals. They repeat what was done to them in order to mentally accept what was done to them.
Yeah well. Its cold in Antartica. I dont think the penguins care who keeps them warm.
Seems plausible
Golly; just WHERE do folks GET these ideas??
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Leviticus niv
18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;
they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.
Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
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2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.
They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
If Donald found a cure for cancer they’d impeach him for taking jobs away from doctors!
I'm sure; when placed in context; you can readily ascertain just what 'pleasure' she is referring to.
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