Skip to comments.Politifact: In Senate trial, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone was wrong on GOP access to SCIF depositions
Posted on 01/21/2020 7:07:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
"Not even (House Intelligence Chairman Adam) Schiffs Republican colleagues were allowed into the SCIF" during the House impeachment investigation.
Pat Cipollone on Tuesday, January 21st, 2020 in remarks in the Senate impeachment trial
On the first full day of President Donald Trumps Senate impeachment trial, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone claimed that House Democrats had run roughshod over the presidents procedural rights by denying Republicans access to key parts of the investigation.
Cipollone had several complaints, but one stood out to us as clearly wrong.
"Not even (House Intelligence Chairman Adam) Schiffs Republican colleagues were allowed into the SCIF" during the House impeachment investigation, Cipollone said on the Senate floor Jan. 21. (A "SCIF," which stands for "sensitive compartmented information facility," is a secure government facility where classified intelligence can be discussed without eavesdropping.)
Cipollones assertion echoed one made by, and on behalf of, a group of Republicans who staged a sit-in at the House Intelligence committee, to protest what they argued were unfair ground rules for the Republican minority during the House impeachment inquiry.
On Oct. 23, more than 40 Republican lawmakers disrupted witness testimony by storming the SCIF where depositions were under way, chanting, "Let us in!"
At the time of the sit-in, Republicans could argue that that the impeachment hearings had only taken place behind closed doors and without transcripts being formally released. (Those transcripts were later released to the public, minus redactions for national-security reasons.)
But what about access to the depositions at the Intelligence Committee? Were all Republicans banned? No.
In the recent impeachment, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., instructed three House committees Oversight, Intelligence and Foreign Affairs to carry out an investigation that the House Judiciary Committee eventually used to draft articles of impeachment. All three committees and all of their members had access to depositions in the SCIF.
There are nine Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee, 17 on the House Oversight Committee, and 21 on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
All 47 of those Republicans have been able to participate and ask questions in the interviews and depositions held to this point, Ashley Etienne, Pelosis communications director, told PolitiFact last October. Independent experts told us the same thing.
Some Republican House members, such as Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, who organized the Oct. 23 protest, were kept out of the hearings not because of their party affiliation, but because they did not sit not on the relevant committees. (Democrats who werent on the committees were kept out as well.) Some, such as Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida, chose not to attend despite being able to do so.
The proof is also in the transcripts that were publicly released: Republican lawmakers and staff asked questions of witnesses, with the witness responding under oath.
One analysis by Philip Bump of the Washington Post found that Republican lawmakers made extensive use of their questioning powers in the deposition of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a member of the National Security Council. He did this by tallying up the number of lines devoted to each partys remarks in the transcript that was eventually released.
"About 44% of the transcript is made up of questions or answers from Democratic members or staff," Bump wrote. "About 41% is from the Republicans. The remaining 15% was discussion and objections."
Neither the White House nor Trumps 2020 re-election campaign replied to our query asking for evidence that backed Cipollones claim.
Cipollone said, "Not even Schiffs Republican colleagues were allowed into the SCIF" during the House impeachment investigation.
Not only were they allowed in, but theres voluminous evidence in the deposition transcripts that they asked questions extensively and received answers under oath.
We rate the statement False.
Politifact is hardly a neutral arbitrator!
Polifacts is a Democrat Fascist party propaganda group. They are not a serious source of news.
They splitting hairs. They were not allowed into the room with out a Democrat supervision They had no unobstructed access to the documents which is the truth. They carping about the wording to present a fraudulent view.
Polifacts is lying by omission.
Where is the Atkinson transcript? Schiff has never released it.
Politifact lies. They were not allowed access to the SCIF.
Even their lie is incoherent. If the Republican were in the room why did they have to storm it?
How about some REAL fact checking
Fact Check: Adam Schiff Lied to the Senate About Trumps Past Concern with Ukraine Corruption
He was wrong. Did Politifact also catch Schiff’s lie about Trump not pressing Ukraine before this year about corruption?
I guess not.
Some of the republicans were allowed into the room. They were not allowed to have their phones or recording equipment, and not allowed to say what they heard.
But unlike every other congressional hearing, NO other republicans were allowed, only the ones assigned to the committees.
Committees are formed to subdivide the work of the whole house, and then the house always hears everything and votes on it. And because they do the work of the house, every house member is allowed to attend meetings.
But the democrats locked the republicans out of the committee hearings, that were NOT part of the committees.
So yes, people have got this wrong, but there was a truth here, just one people haven’t had explained to them.
That is a LIE by Politifact. Not ALL of the transcripts have been released. The Democrats are refusing to release as key transcript by Inspector General Atkinson, because it contains information damning to the Schiff Show.
When you are sworn in, you swear to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". By this measure, Politifact is telling lies.
Part of the St. Petersburg, Florida, not Russia, Pravda! (Cleverly disguised as the Tamps Bay Times) A far left, lying institution/paper!
Politifact?? Is this a Junior High School somewhere in Siberia??
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