Apple and FBI again PING!
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Posted on 01/13/2020 7:23:50 PM PST by Theoria
Attorney General William P. Barr declared on Monday that a deadly shooting last month at a naval air station in Pensacola, Fla., was an act of terrorism, and he asked Apple in an unusually high-profile request to provide access to two phones used by the gunman.
Mr. Barr’s appeal was an escalation of a continuing fight between the Justice Department and Apple pitting personal privacy against public safety.
“This situation perfectly illustrates why it is critical that the public be able to get access to digital evidence,” Mr. Barr said, calling on technology companies to find a solution and complaining that Apple had provided no “substantive assistance.”
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This is why we have laws. If Congress wasn’t dysfunctional they could pass one requiring such access.
The fact that jihadis are slipping through the cracks is our sloppy government’s problem not Apple’s.
Apples phones are just as visible as an Android. It is a game they play to keep us thinking we aren’t ALL caught in the net.
“Barr is just trying to attack apple privacy.”
Correct.
It takes time, effort, money and a COURT ORDER to unlock a secured phone. And Joe Blow Sheriff can’t do it.
They just want to hit a magic button. And they’ve built hundred of magic buttons.
They want a magic button for ALL LEO to be able to do this.
But then they’d lose donations.
And media that took that view would lose advertising dollars.
That is simply not true.
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I know - that’s whyI tagged it with “/sarc”. The Passcode I use with my Apple products is a LONG custom alphanumeric code. It would take longer than the 13 billion years the universe has existed for the NSA to break it. Anyone who relies on a 4 position numeric pass code is foolish, IMHO.
Or kids under 21.
And how many of your childrens’ fingernails would a criminal have to remove before you reveled your passcode to them?
Don’t answer, I’m aware you would reveal it at the mere threat.
So it’s good for privacy, not security.
So the device knows the passcode therefore... and then you make it easy to search if they need too by including wildcards and certain chars they require...
Work on keeping super important and powerful prisoners alive in federal custody. Once this has been mastered, we can talk about Apple.
Freegards
In the next major war if the enemy uses unbreakable Apple phones we’re screwed.
And how many of your childrens’ fingernails would a criminal have to remove before you reveled your passcode to them?
Don’t answer, I’m aware you would reveal it at the mere threat.
So it’s good for privacy, not security.
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Wow...great thinking. I believe I’ll go remove the locks on my front door to save my kids’ fingernails. Yeah..that’s the ticket.
PS - I won’t be hiring you for my cyber security staff.
If he’s deceased..... couldn’t the corpse’s finger print or face unlock the phone???
Interesting that some people equate their phone to their house, and that they think their doorlocks are impenetrable!
Where do people get such idiocy?
Their homes are as safe as the law makes them.
Thanks to the Common Law that is very safe.
A warrant can't compel a third party to conduct a search. The warrant allows the GOVERNMENT to do the search but they have to do it themselves.
This is strike three for Barr as far as I'm concerned. He's a deep state hack, same as Sessions.
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Innumerable times a warrant has compelled the PRODUCTION of something.
Even blood.
Order Apples to produce the cypher.
Don't bring logic and facts into this silly argument again. It's right there in fine print in the Constitution that government can use force to compel others to break into other peoples stuff on the governments behalf, especially when the government caused the problem to start with. It's right there in black and white and clear.
First you are dead wrong on that. A warrant cannot turn citizens into slaves to the government. Second, even if the government could order Apple to crack the phone apple could truthfully respond that they have started a brute force attack and expect to have about a 1 percent chance in unlocking the phone in the next one hundred thousand years.
You don't understand the basics of the Constitution or Encryption.
I know everything about encryption, and endeavor to understand the constitution every day.
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