Posted on 01/07/2020 3:29:04 PM PST by rxsid
I noticed. I didn’t miss him though. What a bunch of Iranian apologist guests he had on earlier. Tucker could have passed for Baghdad bob.
On KFI, military expert Brian Suits says Iran informed the Iraqi counterparts this was coming and where, and they of course informed the us military. So this was for the Iranian public, for a good feeling of revenge, but just for show really.
Things are changing in Iran. This is what peace deals look like. At some point moderates gain the upper hand. Until Soleimani was taken out, that was never going to happen.
Not at all. I thought you were capable of having an honest well meaning discussion. If you want to mock me rather than debate me, then I guess we’re done.
We are in a war, but it can be unwound while still exerting maximum pressure on Iran. Trump calling their bluff is probably the closest we have been to capitulation. Let their internal politics take hold a bit. IMHO.
Ok, so think about this. The mullahs fake an attack to look strong to their people, they coordinate through the Iraqis to warn the Americans, and do it in a way that within hours, everyone and their mother knows it was a fake attack. I’m sure the mullahs aren’t worried that their actual fecklessness has been so quickly found out. Sheesh.
You called me naive just before that, didn’t you. You want me to say what I was really thinking? I was being nice.
We’ll get there, patience.
What’s important is that they now understand our negotiating position properly. The rest will fall into place. They’ll get a choice between jihad and prosperity and will take the latter.
Trump’s the first person they’ve really had to negotiate with in good faith in at least 30 years. They’re going to take this chance.
I called you naïve in response to you’re saying I was living in fantasy land. That may have been harsh but was certainly not mocking you.
Only after the mullahs are deposed can we ‘get there’
We’ll get there, patience.
What’s important for now is that we achieved major objectives and did not have to commit to a long expensive war to do it.
I said your argument wanders into fantasy land. That was not a personal attack. Try again.
The proper response won’t be a long expensive war. It will be a thorough thumping that will neuter the mullahs and the IRG and allow for an internal revolution to succeed.
It’s a dem talking point that our only forceful option is another long war.
And I said you were naïve. That’s an accurate assessment of your belief that such back channels don’t exist.
I never said that. But I certainly don’t believe their was any back channel coordination between trump and the worlds biggest sponsors of terrorism. So once again you misquote me. Stop digging please.
Perhaps you fail to appreciate the magnitude of the one strike we did make.
Regime just got put on a timer - its intended jihadi future got scraped off a sidewalk and hauled home in a Chevy.
Thanks for the detailed info. It’s much appreciated.
I most definitely appreciate the taking out of saliemani, however you spell that POS’s name. After all the lives he had taken, he got what was coming. To say that entitled Iran to ‘even the score’ is just to buy into their propaganda. They put more American serviceman’s lives at risk tonight with an intention attack, an attack that upped the ante, and crossed many red lines in international law and norms. Why so many want to normalize that is beyond me.
Come on, give it a rest already. This is what I said:
“So, a face saving act, coordinated ahead of time with POTUS...”
This is what you said:
“this is where your argument wonders into fantasy land.”
So you expressed that you don’t think such a back channel exists between POTUS and Iran. Okay, you’re entitled to your opinion, but I wasn’t misquoting you.
Because it was quite obviously intended to hurt nobody and was pre-arranged, as Trump tipped off with his rapid “All is well!” post.
I’m willing to give them the save of face. It costs us nothing, and enables their capitulation with minimum force necessary to achieve it.
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