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In Defense of Charlie Kirk
Frontpage Magazine ^ | January 6, 2020 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/06/2020 3:43:01 AM PST by Stepan12

Conservative students and speakers have had a tough time at UCLA. And when Donald Trump Jr. came out to speak about his new book, Triggered, at a Turning Point USA event, everyone knew there would be trouble. President Trump’s son had appeared at multiple campuses with TPUSA with no problems.

But UCLA had a bad reputation to live up to. And it lived up to it.

Except instead of the expected alt-left Never Trumpers, alt-right Never Trumpers shut down the event.

While alt-lefties waved orange signs reading “Trump/Pence Out”, their Trump-hating counterparts had infiltrated the Triggered event. And what the Commies outside couldn’t do, the Nazis on the inside did.

Loud boos met the president’s son. As Donald Trump Jr. tried to speak, a small group of haters repeatedly interrupted his remarks. Planting hecklers at conservative events who use rolling disruptions to shut down a speaker was a familiar lefty tactic. But it was coming from an unexpected direction.

"You have people spreading nonsense, you have people spreading hate to try to take over that room,” a frustrated Donald Trump Jr. said.

The hate was being spread by the ‘Groypers’, one of a number of feuding alt-right splinter groups, who had realized that they could make headlines and gain influence by disrupting conservative student events. And when the Triggered event was shut down early, the Groypers celebrated their big win.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: falseflag; neonazi
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To: Stepan12

Trump is as centrist a centrist as you will ever see. Advocating for social causes is not his thing, and not what we need out of him right now. He’s the right man for the right time.


21 posted on 01/06/2020 10:36:35 AM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: Stepan12

The Kirk TPUSA crowd are Bush variety GOPe toadies.

The Groypers flirt with Jew/Israel bashing.

No heroes on either side of this one.


22 posted on 01/06/2020 2:17:43 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: magglepuss

Nick Fuentes is a holocaust denier and an anti-Semite and a vile being. No one who claims to be a conservative should be supporting this basement dwelling shmuck.

Nick Fuentes on the Cookie Question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9aco6o5WBE


23 posted on 01/06/2020 2:19:25 PM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Pelham

Until Michelle Malkin sided with the alt/groypers, I had never even heard of Charlie Kirk.


24 posted on 01/06/2020 5:09:58 PM PST by Stepan12 (potusm)
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To: wintertime
Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to the devil and the lib/commies have taken that to heart. Of course, I oppose the removal of the statue of Robert Lee; however, I'm not going to join a protest headed by Obama's man. Why was he heading a rightwing protest? More devilish shenanigans from the Saul Alinsky types?
25 posted on 01/06/2020 5:12:45 PM PST by Stepan12 (potusm)
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To: magglepuss

I didn’t know that alt righters/groypers commented on this page. Anymore cookie monster jokes to tell?


26 posted on 01/06/2020 5:15:23 PM PST by Stepan12 (potusm)
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To: MD Expat in PA

I get the impression that there’s a lot of Howard Stern shock jock in the groyper crowd. They appear to find angry reactions to what they say to be funny. It’s hard to know if they are serious or trolling. Or both.


27 posted on 01/06/2020 6:38:20 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: MD Expat in PA

How many times have you denounced the using of the term “drinking the kool aid”?

My guess would be never. There were a lot of very innocent souls lost that day. but that joke is just fine.


28 posted on 01/06/2020 8:48:01 PM PST by magglepuss
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To: magglepuss

Nick the self-hating half Mexican is a troll. Alt righters should follow their hero and take their non existent girlfriends down into the bunker with some pistols.


29 posted on 01/06/2020 8:51:34 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Stepan12
Anymore cookie monster jokes to tell?

So what? any more “drinking the kool aid” jokes to tell?

Or maybe Rush can do a “Communism has only killed 100M, lets give it another chance.

Are you saying you can't make a point with humor? And that we have to believe every spoon fed hing we are told?

30 posted on 01/06/2020 8:59:14 PM PST by magglepuss
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To: Pelham

what on earth are you talking about?


31 posted on 01/06/2020 9:20:57 PM PST by magglepuss
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To: Pelham

I get the impression that there’s a lot of Howard Stern shock jock in the groyper crowd


Have you listen to this young man at all? Watch the Jessie Lee Peterson podcast. I am so sad with what freepers have assumed.


32 posted on 01/06/2020 9:37:08 PM PST by magglepuss
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To: magglepuss

“Watch the Jessie Lee Peterson podcast.”

And how exactly is that supposed to be more informative than seeing the primary sources themselves? Do you know anything about doing research?


33 posted on 01/06/2020 10:12:11 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: magglepuss
How many times have you denounced the using of the term “drinking the kool aid”? My guess would be never. There were a lot of very innocent souls lost that day. but that joke is just fine.

Seriously? You are comparing Jonestown to the Holocaust? You don’t appear to understand this history of either.

The phrase “Drinking the Kool-Aid” is a bit repugnant based on the origin. It wasn’t even Kool-Aid BTW but Flavor Aid. The phrase however,” suggests that one has mindlessly adopted the dogma of a group or leader without fully understanding the ramifications or implications.” Regardless over 900 hundred people died that day in Jonestown and that isn’t funny, but also understand that many of them willingly drank the cyanide at the direction of the cult leader Jim Jones which gives the phrase some credibility when describing mindless people who willingly swallow whatever thing they are told without critical thinking.

And speaking of critical thinking, you can’t compare that phrase to what Fuentes did with his Cookie Monster analogy and how Fuentes uses it to deny that the Holocaust many not have been all that bad.

In the video, Fuentes does not speak about Jews directly, but about the number of cookies being cooked in ovens. He did this in response to a viewer who asked him in a YouTube comment: “If I take one hour to cook a batch of cookies in Cookie Monster’s 15 ovens working 24 hours a day every day for five years, how long does it take to make 6 million batches of cookies?”

“I don’t know,” Fuentes said in response, before going on a two-minute riff about how the 6 million estimate is way off, and saying that maybe the actual number of batches of cookies baked is between 200,000 and 300,000.

He also jokes about the shadows from the smokestacks of Cookie Monster’s ovens not being visible from aerial photographs, and that the soil beneath the ovens is not really deep enough to account for all the batches of cookies prepared in the ovens. He even suggests that maybe the ovens were used for delousing. During the monologue, throughout which Fuentes displays an ugly smirk, he says, “The math doesn’t seem to add up here.”

So when Fuentes “jokes” about people, Jews mostly but not exclusively, systematically killed in the Nazi death camps and comparing them to cookies, that’s OK but using the phrase “Drinking the Kool-Aid” isn’t. Got it. I think you’ve been drinking something. And if you believe that Fuentes and his groypers are fine upstanding Christian men, perhaps you are the one Drinking the Kool Aid.

34 posted on 01/07/2020 4:57:36 AM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Ok, got it. You are a Christianphobe. You must be if you think it is ok to go on a public forum and lie about a Christian by calling him anti-semite, or a denier just because he asked questions you didn’t like.

How would you like it if I pm my list and let them all know that expat is a Christianphobe. That would be exactly what you are doing to this young white Christian by calling him anti-semite.

One question though. Are all WW2 questions or jokes off limits or just the ones you don’t like. I mean many Christian men lost their lives fighting Hitler. I would bet some of the groypers have kin that lost their lives fighting Hitler. Maybe you should go lecture them again about this issue. Oh, and make sure you continue to call them names.


35 posted on 01/07/2020 5:48:00 AM PST by magglepuss
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To: magglepuss

I didn’t lie about Fuentes. His own words speak pretty clearly for him. As do yours.


36 posted on 01/07/2020 6:19:12 AM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Well, you have the right to your opinion on name calling. I have that same right. NF didn’t say anything wrong. If you disagree with me, you are a Christianphobe. See how that works?


37 posted on 01/07/2020 6:53:45 AM PST by magglepuss
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To: Clemenza

Alt righters should follow their hero and take their non existent girlfriends down into the bunker with some pistols.


Do you really not see how creepy and cringe comments like that are coming from some old fart about a young man? Michelle Malkin commented on this same thing in her UCLA speech.

Are you trying to copy Joe Biden?


38 posted on 01/07/2020 7:08:20 AM PST by magglepuss
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To: magglepuss

My question is why a fellow freeper would post a pack of lies about young white Christian men on free republic.


My qusetion is why you continue to lionize these “young white Christian men”. They are obviously disruptors and selfish agitators. They are using the leftist playbook to attack supporters of POTUS and not to be trusted. Frankly, your defense of them comes off as cultish and confirms my low opinion of them.


39 posted on 01/07/2020 7:18:15 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Lodi, you have this 100% backwards. Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, ALL NEVER TRUMPERS. Nick and co. were supporters of Trump.

Kirk has been feverishly deleting his nasty Trump tweets. He has commented that diplomas should have green cards stapled to the back. He said in Jerusalem that America was just an idea, not a place like Israel. We like the Grand Canyon and stuff, but the country is just a placeholder. He poses with drag queens that do reading hours for toddlers.

Ben Shapiro was involved in the Michelle Fields fiasco. Her and Ben were lying to try to get Trump to fire Cory Lewandowski. What was the point of this? They knew it was a lie. He was on the Joe Rogan podcast and when asked about Christ being a prophet, he said Jesus was a failed rebel who took it to the romans and got killed for his trouble. Is he called names for being so disrespectful to Christians? Atheist JOe Rogan was more respectful.

These men come to the events. Listen to the speaker. Then line up for the Q and A. So why are you lying about them?

40 posted on 01/07/2020 7:55:48 AM PST by magglepuss
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