This doesn't make any sense.
The whistleblower stated that he had direct knowledge so it doesn't matter whether they used the old or new regulations.
You say the WB didn't have direct knowledge, but :
"As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainants Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct..."
It is also a known fact that ICIG dated his letter to the chairs of the House and Senate oversight Committees, complaining of how this whistleblower complaint was handled by the DNI and DOJ, on the same day the he first received the complaint
How is this known? The WB complaint went to the Office of the ICIG on August 12th. The first letter to Schiff & Nunes was dated September 9th.
Your arguments about the various legal opinions from the DNI and DOJ might matter if the ICIG had not heeded them and instead forwarded the complaint to Congress, but he didn't.
Despite being given the authority to determine urgency he deferred to the Administration's wishes and didn't transmit the complaint, so again your point is moot.
Easy to know. ICIG Atkinson sent the letter to Chairman Adam Schiff and Senator Richard Burr on September 9, 2019, but the META DATA on the lCIGs letter complaining about how the DNI and DOJ handled it was August 12, 2019, the day he created it, the same day he received the complaint!
How is that possible? How could he know the determination would be made by his own offices career legal counsel, the DNIs legal counsels determination, and the determination of the DOJs legal counsel if he had not been advised that WOULD be the obvious and LEGAL determination on this complaint, which had been the same as had been made in prior such determinations involving prior administrations outside of the Intelligence Community?
Thats simple too. As soon as IG Atkinson read that complaint, on the first day he received it, he knew it would be kicked back by the DNI, DOJ, and all of the career legal counsels due to the complaint not being under his jurisdiction. There are multiple reasons why Atkinson would know its not in his jurisdiction right off the bat, and not something hes even permitted to investigate at all.
Why would it not be under the ICIGs jurisdiction? First of all, except for a few positions in the White House, most appointed employees in the administration, and most certainly and specifically the President are not members of the Intelligence Community; secondly elected officials, as is the President, are statutorily not subject to IC whistleblowing reporting; thirdly, the subject matter is not permitted be reported at all due to statutorily being a difference of policy; fourthly, having to do with a Diplomatic phone call, it is a matter of Executive Privilege, and again, statutorily excluded. These are all determinations that have been made multiple times before by multiple legal counsels, under multiple administrations. Its a no brainer.
The ICIG would know these facts of his statutory jurisdiction as well as he knew the inside of his eyeballs. It would be like a city cop not knowing where his citys city limits are, if he did not. Yet IG Atkinson, instead of dismissing the complaint out-of-hand, or telling Eric Ciamarella to take his dog and pony show to the FBI, proceeds to exceed his authority and jurisdiction, and his own currently published, and therefore, official regulations and complaint form, to investigate something he knows beyond a shadow of a doubt will be LEGALLY tossed out as exceeding his statutory authority and jurisdiction. Not only does he proceed to illegally open a case he knows is beyond his jurisdictional authority, he sits down on the same day he receives the complaint and composes a letter accusing a DNI who has yet to take office of somehow abusing his office in a political manner, and does the same about his further superiors at the DOJ for routinely doing what has been done in the past in similar cases, to deny his conclusions about something he has no jurisdiction doing and has not yet even sent to them!
He knows very well what is going to happen when he sends this to the DNIs office, no matter who is sitting in the DNIs seat. Its a foregone conclusion, it will be declared not in the ICIGs jurisdiction. Thats why he can write the letter in advance and know it will be useful weeks later, no matter what happens when he sends it on. It will be rejected for the same reasons. He will just claim its supposedly for political reasons protecting President Trump, even though it is normal operating procedures.
THAT META DATA date inside his letter is exactly what exposes him as part of the plot. Its not the date when he sent it, but the date when he wrote it that shows whats going on.
You say the WB didn't have direct knowledge, but : "As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainants Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct..."
Semimojo, a lie is still a lie, no matter WHO is making excuses for it. EVEN YOU!
Again, you are not realizing that it doesnt matter WHAT Ciamarella claimed in his PERJURED check box or in his multiple pages of lying statements, what matters is that he LIED in all of it. The claim that he had DIRECT EVIDENCE does not exist in any of the statements in his multiple pages of legalese his attorneys prepared for ICIG Atkinson to find credible. Not a single whit of direct evidence. NONE. Ive read it. How can Atkinson find what is simply not there?
I again repeat, I read every word in the legal eagle prepared section and there is no way that the WB, as you keep referring to Eric CiamarellaWhat are you? A shill for the MSM? Use his damned name, for Petes sake, we on FR arent protecting that lying snake!was ever in a location where he could have had any direct knowledge of the events for which he was filing a complaint.
Eric Ciamarella had been kicked out of his positions at the White House and sent packing in early 2018, if not earlier, under suspicion of leaking other classified communications. The leaks STOPPED after he was sent back to the CIA and his need-to-know access to White House communications was cut off! Ergo, he could have had no First Hand knowledge of anything he claimed to know.
It was ALL second and third hand. He LIED! Get that THROUGH YOUR HEAD! Eric Ciamarella, the WB, Whistleblower, who is Eric Ciamarella, is a KNOWN and complete LIAR! Get it? He committed Perjury when he checked that box he had first hand knowledge and signed the complaint form!
You can dance and quote the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals talking points as much as you like, but you cannot get around the fact that Eric Ciamarella, the WB, Whistleblower, who is Eric Ciamarella, is a KNOWN and complete LIAR! Get it? He committed Perjury when he checked that box he had first hand knowledge and signed the complaint form!
IF Whistleblower Eric Ciamarella had DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the accusations, something not a single one of the witnesses before the Schiff of Nadler committees professed to possess, dont you think he would have been called to present that DIRECT KNOWLEDGE to those committees?Ergo, semimojo, ERIC CIAMARELLO did not have any DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of any wrong doing, and only lied, over and over.
That, in fact, is what I read what he attested to in his filed complaint. LIES. Not a word he related to his attorneys who wrote down what he claimed comported with what was claimed was said in that call was in the official (and attested under oath accurate by persons who had actually heard to call) transcript of the phone call. In other words, he lied about having first hand information.
That also makes it a fact that the ICIG, a long term member of the Deep State, the Intelligence Community Inspector General Atkinson is also a liar when he says he found first hand information, he did not. He revealed himself as a coconspirator. Hes DIRTY. GET IT? Stop using him as a source to clean up the WB, Whistleblower, spy, leaker, Eric Ciamarellas reputation or Eric Ciamarellas lying third-hand, second-hand, rumor laden and completely lacking in first hand evidence statements. The ICIG is a Player in this DRAMA. His role was to give Eric Ciaramella some gravitas, than a mere walk-on role, and to hide him behind a fake, non-existent claim that hes entitled to anonymity, to make ad hoc CHANGES to the FORM and REGULATIONS and backdate them, allowing Eric Cirarmellas hearsay and third and second hand reporting credibility which Adam Schiffs script started to come apart in late September. He did what his puppet masters told him to do, performing willingly when they pulled his strings, and like a good little puppet, he dances when they want him to dance.
Your arguments about the various legal opinions from the DNI and DOJ might matter if the ICIG had not heeded them and instead forwarded the complaint to Congress, but he didn't.
Despite being given the authority to determine urgency he deferred to the Administration's wishes and didn't transmit the complaint, so again your point is moot.
Youve got to be kidding! Semimojo, where have you been? HE DID! Did you not read the factual events I outlined for you? Thats exactly what ICIG did. You are arguing a falsehood. How in the hell do you think the Intelligence Committees in Congress GOT the complaint?
It is NOT ICIG Atkinsons role to determine urgency, as you claim, but rather to advise the DNI of his investigation of a matter filed as an urgent matter. It is the Director National Intelligence who makes the final determination. Did you read the ICIGs whistleblower law about this? Again, semimojo, I did read it In fact, I posted it in its entirety on Freerepublic. From what you posted above, I dont think you did. . . Because what you just claimed is not in that statute.
That law specifically excludes political matters. It excludes elected officials. It excludes policy matters. It specifically excludes the ICIG from reporting anything that is NOT in the Intelligence Community. That is what that statute specifically states. The ICIG MUST defer to the DNIs determination about whether or not it is an urgent matter or not, or if it is in the Intelligence Community. Specific to what you just claimed, the statute says ICIG has two calendar weeks to investigate a reported matter, at which point he must submit a report on his findings to the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), who then has five calendar days to determine whether or not the matter rises to an urgent matter or not, or if it is even within the IGs jurisdiction. It is the DNIs duty to decide to either report or not report to the the Oversight committees of Congress. In this instance, the new Acting DNI (appointed August 15, 2019), to be absolutely certain, not only consulted his own career legal counsel, went further by requesting the input of the DOJs career Legal Counsel, and, to allow for more time due to the subject matter spanning a weekend, notified Chairmen Schiff and Burr that there was a potential IC urgent matter that might come to them and requested MORE TIME beyond the statutory five days to determine jurisdiction, for which both granted an additional five days. It was determined by all career legal counsels at every level that the ICIG did not have legal jurisdiction over the President, nor was it a matter to be referred to the Intelligence committees as it was outside their spheres of oversight. Atkinson decided he was more knowledgeable than all of those superiors and reported it, like a good little deep state dancing puppet.
The ICIG DID in fact ignore the determination of the DNI and the DOJ that it was NOT in his jurisdiction and and he did indeed send his August 12 META DATA dated letters to Chairmen Schiff and Burr, complaining that an urgent Intelligence matter was being mishandled politically. That is a fact. THAT IS HOW THEY GOT IT, aside from the known fact that Schiff and his staff had been talking to Eric Ciamarella in early August if not late July, scripting this whole thing, likely assigning Atkinson his role to do this. There really is no other explanation for the META DATA dates on things that should not have those dates on them.
META DATA dates and timestamps are very telling when you look for them. Meta Data time stamps on uploaded/downloaded files shows that the DNC was not hacked by the Russians, for example, but was downloaded locally to a Flash Drive. In fact, the July 5th Metadata on those data files which indicate it has Russian, has been shown to be pasted on, not original, and the original Metadata can be found underneath. Oops.