Psychosis, addiction, ER visits: For young users, marijuana can be a dangerous game

Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | December 23, 2019 | Rita Giordano

[Antoninus]

Marijuana is bad for the health? So are alcohol, tobacco, and fast food - should those not be legal?

Lines need to be drawn. Even you believe that. Or do you think that opium products should be legal and easily available as well? How about crack? Meth?

[NobleFree]

My point is that more drugs make the world worse, not better.

From which it must follow that one less drug - alcohol - would make the world better, not worse. So should we ban all drugs, including alcohol?

[NobleFree]

Marijuana is bad for the health? So are alcohol, tobacco, and fast food - should those not be legal?

Lines need to be drawn.

Here's where I draw my line: Adverse health impact is not sufficient reason to ban anything - require truth in labeling and let adults make their decisions. (My provisional support for a continued ban on opiates and meth has nothing to do with their being bad for health,.)

[G Larry]

Plz Ref you “ASSUME” post.

[Antoninus]

My provisional support for a continued ban on opiates and meth has nothing to do with their being bad for health.

Sure it doesn't. But by all means, please feel free to make your nonsensical case for why opiates should be banned but not cannabis.

[NobleFree]

My point is that more drugs make the world worse, not better.

From which it must follow that one less drug - alcohol - would make the world better, not worse. So should we ban all drugs, including alcohol?

Plz Ref you “ASSUME” post.

No assumptions in my first sentence - and only a question in my second. If you're trying to coyly suggest that you support no drug bans, but simply lament the use of drugs, then we're in complete agreement.

[NobleFree]

My provisional support for a continued ban on opiates and meth has nothing to do with their being bad for health.

Sure it doesn't. But by all means, please feel free to make your nonsensical case for why opiates should be banned but not cannabis.

Opiates should for the time being remain banned for nonmedical use simply because sudden sweeping policy reversals are imprudent. We should continue to sunset the ban on the most popular and one of the least harmful illegal drugs, marijuana, and see (1) what lessons there are to be learned, and (2) whether by taking those profits and that upsell opportunity away from criminals, we've left ourselves with a War on Drugs we can actually win.

[NobleFree]

Marijuana is bad for the health? So are alcohol, tobacco, and fast food - should those not be legal?

Lines need to be drawn.

Why does your line legalize the more harmful drug alcohol but not the less harmful drug marijuana? Alcohol is more addictive and much more easily leads to fatal overdose.

[G Larry]

I'm not "coyly" suggesting anything.

I've also never suggested banning alcohol, yet you continue to insist that's my goal.

I'm clearly stating that the world would be a better place if we quit promoting drug use.

The world would also be a better place if Eve had never picked the apple.

Yet, somehow, I don't support banning apples.

[NobleFree]

I'm clearly stating that the world would be a better place if we quit promoting drug use.

This is the first time you've mentioned promotion. I'm against promoting drug use; I'm also not aware that anyone is doing so. Is anyone doing so - and if so, how?

The world would also be a better place if Eve had never picked the apple.

Yet, somehow, I don't support banning apples.

Is it your position that alcohol and other drugs should be neither banned nor promoted? That's my position.

[Garth Tater]

"From which it must follow that one less drug - alcohol - would make the world better, not worse. So should we ban all drugs, including alcohol?"

It's always a pleasure watching you work Noble. Nobody is better than you at pointing out the weird ability many FReepers have of strongly supporting individual liberty and personal responsibility while at the same time voicing their support of the government locking people up for smoking a joint.

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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - as long as you do it my way!
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[NobleFree]

Thanks, Garth!

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - as long as you do it my way!

LOL!

[G Larry]

No

[NobleFree]

I'm against promoting drug use; I'm also not aware that anyone is doing so. Is anyone doing so - and if so, how?

I missed your answer to this.

The world would also be a better place if Eve had never picked the apple.

Yet, somehow, I don't support banning apples.

Is it your position that alcohol and other drugs should be neither banned nor promoted?

No

What is your position on the proper legal status of alcohol and other drugs?

[G Larry]

We are done here.

[G Larry]

We are done here.

[Pelham]

“Perhaps the program wasn’t being fully honest about the situation and exaggerated for dramatic effect.”

That would be my guess. It’s not like alcohol or opiate drugs, which can poison you if you get too much in your system.

I think it attaches to serotonin or dopamine receptors. And once it has flooded all of them nothing more can happen no matter how much you have ingested.

[chris37]

Check this out, Pelham, I found the exact segment of the program Drugs Inc, this is the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93Kjf_azO0

[Pelham]

Only the hallucinations would fit his being dosed with LSD. The convulsions and threat of dying would be from something that’s toxic, which LSD isn’t. But since that was a street drug lab who knows what he might have come into contact with, assuming that they aren’t exaggerating what he experienced.

[cherry]

weed is here to stay....no going back.....

but its laughable how we have all this concern about vaping for our young people and yet nary a word about how weed can destroy young minds.....

you pot heads got what you wanted....

in the words of an old saying goes....."may all your dreams come true"....

for us, we will live and associate with fellow patriots who don't need their drug fix to survive....