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France to Raise Pollution Tax on SUVs and Trucks to $22,240
Bloomberg | December 20, 2019 | Ania Nussbaum

Posted on 12/24/2019 4:55:00 AM PST by karpov

No excerpt from Bloomberg allowed, story here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: clickbait; dontwasteyourtime; fakenews; france
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1 posted on 12/24/2019 4:55:00 AM PST by karpov
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Is that the fee on top of the vehicle price?


2 posted on 12/24/2019 4:57:23 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Yes, it’s a tax.


3 posted on 12/24/2019 4:58:47 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Omg!


4 posted on 12/24/2019 4:59:05 AM PST by HollyB
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5 posted on 12/24/2019 4:59:22 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: karpov

Per vehicle? At time of purchase? Yearly? Useful information that would tell us if the government of France is mildly or severely insane.


6 posted on 12/24/2019 5:00:26 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: karpov

This tax, imposed by the Left in the name of climate change, will do nothing but weaken France economically by especially burdening small business. It will lead to more poverty, social unrest and political instability.

America is one election away from this catastrophic nonsense.


7 posted on 12/24/2019 5:05:57 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: karpov

Something doesn’t add up in that story.

$22,400 dollars is $20,000 Euros, a princely sum, I may add.

Then they say that SUVs are 30% of sales

Finally, though, they say that the tax should yield $50 million Euros.

Here’s the problem. If the tax of $20k Euros only yields $50M, then only 2,500 SUVs are expected to be sold...but if SUVs are 30% of vehicle sales in France, then the TOTAL number of vehicles sold in France would be about 8,000 per year. Sorry...doesn’t work, the Left hasn’t (yet) gotten that far in eliminating motor vehicles, not even in Europe (although who knows in 10 years).


8 posted on 12/24/2019 5:07:04 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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According to a thread on Hacker News, most SUVs will not be subject to the tax, only the heaviest ones.
9 posted on 12/24/2019 5:11:39 AM PST by karpov
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From another article:

France’s government presented on Friday a new set of penalties for polluting cars circulating on the country’s roads.

The new fees are part of France’s “bonus-malus écologique” which is an environmental tax system in France that sees drivers taxed more heavily according to how much CO2 pollution their vehicle emits.

As of January 1st 2019, SUV’s (Sport utility vehicles), big sedans and other large cars will be slapped with penalties of between €50 to €10,500 depending on their polluting level, fines that in fact already exist.

The difference is that the emission threshold for cars will be lowered by 3 grams, from 120 to 117 grams of CO2 released per kilometer.

That means the number of cars penalized is likely to rise from the current 16.5 percent to 27.6 percent in 2019, unless there’s a considerable switchover to less polluting cars by the French public.

The average penalty fee will also almost triple from €50 to €145.

Vehicles that release 140g of CO2 per km will see owners having to cough up €1,050 in their next vehicle registration, €5,113 if it’s 154g/km and €10,500 if it’s 185g/km and over.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20180720/france-tightens-grip-on-polluting-cars-with-stricter-eco-tax


10 posted on 12/24/2019 5:14:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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To: I want the USA back

See #10.


11 posted on 12/24/2019 5:15:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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To: BobL

Interesting thx


12 posted on 12/24/2019 5:15:19 AM PST by HollyB
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To: BobL

see #10.


13 posted on 12/24/2019 5:15:41 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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Thanks Moon, that makes a bit more sense - so far not a deal killer, but we’ll see where it goes.


14 posted on 12/24/2019 5:19:47 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: karpov
most SUVs will not be subject to the tax, only the heaviest ones.

They will probably fix that, to include all of them.

15 posted on 12/24/2019 5:25:02 AM PST by Mark17 (Father of Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go much faster than Army tanks)
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To: karpov

If older SUVs are grandfathered in the French fleet of SUVs will look like Cuba’s. Old pollution belching behemoths will be the unintended consequence.


16 posted on 12/24/2019 5:30:25 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: karpov

I would argue that the tax is more like a Brexit shortfall tax. Someone has to make up the revenue losses from the UK.


17 posted on 12/24/2019 5:33:03 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: karpov

Suburbans, Tahoes, escalades, Expeditions...

All four door American pickups.

It’s an anti american tax


18 posted on 12/24/2019 5:39:26 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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I wouldn’t be surprised if only the wealthy buy them anyway; just had some European friends visiting (including a mechanic), and they said many of the larger vehicles here are only seen in movies there.


19 posted on 12/24/2019 5:44:31 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: karpov

The French don’t have children so they don’t need big cars. But that leaves the question of how their Muslim successor population will get around.


20 posted on 12/24/2019 5:58:31 AM PST by sphinx
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